Speeding abroad
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TVR5

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595 posts

278 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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What happens if you get caught speeding abroad, France, Germany, Italy etc?
Is it just a fine or what?

Was just considering registering my car in France or something, so if I do get busted one day doing 33 in a 30 or whatever I just get a £50 fine instead of points.

I'm sure this isn't possible but was just an idle thought.....

Bodo

12,430 posts

286 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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What happens if you get caught speeding abroad, France, Germany, Italy etc?
Is it just a fine or what?

Was just considering registering my car in France or something, so if I do get busted one day doing 33 in a 30 or whatever I just get a £50 fine instead of points.

I'm sure this isn't possible but was just an idle thought.....




I've had a foreign reg in Germany for some month.
Accidentally been caught speeding by a mobile camera, but with less than 20kph over the limit (fine normally <€40; no points), but never received anything.
Look out for speed traps, where you get stopped by the police; they'll charge you instantly.
A mate was caught with 20kph+ in a German reg vehicle in Germany with a British license: he had to pay a fine and they've collected his license for one month.


>> Edited by Bodo on Monday 27th January 18:04

plotloss

67,280 posts

290 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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A mate drives in the UK on an American license in a car registered in Belgium...

Matt.

dcb

6,026 posts

285 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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What happens if you get caught speeding abroad, France, Germany, Italy etc?
Is it just a fine or what?



Mostly, yes. With a Brit car, you
have to be going a bit before they take an interest.
It's the extra form filling in.

If you are well over the limits, then they get nasty.
Well over is something like 50 kph over on motorways,
a lot less in town.



Was just considering registering my car in France or something, so if I do get busted one day doing 33 in a 30 or whatever I just get a £50 fine instead of points.



To register a car abroad, you need additional paper,
like residency permits etc, so it's not really a runner
for most Brits.

Interesting try, though.

alan_driver

1,281 posts

277 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Foreign countries cannot put points on your licence. (im lead to beleive)
In france they have a ticket system, you get a ticket, drive another x miles, they pay for the privlage. (something like that) If you have taken less than x minuites, you must have been doing more than Y KPH on average. on the spot fine.
Edited to change from 'put pints on'
Wonder what I have on my mind.


>> Edited by alan_driver on Monday 27th January 18:57

boiler

217 posts

275 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Most foreign countries don't have the concept of endorsements, in the same way we do. You are either given a fine, license confiscated for a period of time, or (in Switzerland)sent to jail! The punishment fits the offence that has been committed, rather than automatically taking previous offences into consideration.

To prevent getting points in the UK, you would need a foreign license, aswell as foreign plates. To get these, you would have to prove residency in another country, and probably surrender your UK license.

You could probably get away with a minor speeding offence by handing over a foreign license, as it is not worth the bother of paperwork. However, a more serious offence could result in a not so quick trip to the local nick, whilst the police identify and charge you.

There are also limits to how long you can drive in this country with a forign license (I think 12 months), and after that you have to exchange it for a UK license.

Andy.

DanH

12,287 posts

280 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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I was enquiring about this as I'm heading to lemans in July.

Was told that if you are stopped in France they do an on the spot fine, and that if you don't have the money they hold your passenger whilst you go to the bank. Dunno if its true

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

275 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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"They hold your passenger........."

Bit too chummy for my liking..........

Rutherford was caught by a French bike cop a few years ago, returning from Geneva show. Said they had pulled several British cars, but ignored locals. Also reckons they pocketed the fine and turned nasty when he asked for a receipt.

Someone said they can confiscate your car if you don't pay, and the fine can be £hundreds.

Is this true?

JMGS4

8,870 posts

290 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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1) Switzerland, if the catch you and it's not serious (within 10 kmh) they'll fine you cash. more serious fine you cash (can be VERY expensive). Extremely serious over 40kph and they'll impound your car and put you in jail until they decide what to do. It may be that your family must come with cash and bail you out! Beware of speed traps at the exit to a tunnel, or in the lay-by or gaps in tunnels!!!!
2) Germany, with a GB plate and a fixed gatso, probably nothing, a mobile camera with a speedstop after, then pay up. If it's very serious, e.g. near a border, they may well impound the car or give you a huge bail charge. Johnny Cecotto got a DM150000 bail and car impounded at the swiss border (by the germans) as he'd done some high-speed undertakes on the german autobahn!
3)France... french fuzz can escort you to the cash point to get the money, as a card payment can be revoked. Serious one and they'll jail you.
4) Belgium see France

Edited due to computer dyslexia!

>> Edited by JMGS4 on Tuesday 28th January 08:11

TVR5

Original Poster:

595 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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Thanks for the replies guys!

Sod it!!! I knew it wouldn't be that easy, but I reckon there could be loop holes there somewhere.

It's the points on the license and the then even further extortionate insurance fees that are the things to avoid. The occassional £50 fine isn't too bad. So registering your car abroad with a relative or something and then obviously driving it yourself in good old rip off, politically correct Blighty I thought could be a good way of avoiding points etc...

Graham

16,378 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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Im sure there is a chap around here who registered his car in IOM so that he doesnt get uk points, he does have an address there, but i think they are quite easy to get as lots of businesses register there...

and they speak English..

Deester

1,607 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th January 2003
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I am staying in Germany and driving on a UK licence. I managed to get caught by a mobile camera (front facing) at 81 km/h on a 50 km/h.

www.pistonheads.com/speed/results.asp?geog=17%7CFrankfurt&road=0%7C0&limit=0%7Cm&speed=0%7C0&submitBtn=++Show++#354

My UK licence was taken for 1 month.

Deester...