Grrrrrrrrrr!..put me out of my misery!
Grrrrrrrrrr!..put me out of my misery!
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brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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I know \I am dumb..I know I am stupid..but..


How the devil do you get the two spacers to fit the rear upper cast uprights without buggering the cast?. These spacers I have been told are a tight fit...you are TELLING ME!

Yes I have used a rubber mallet...no its far too tight....I have tried...ooohh I have tried...
but I am worried about using too much force in fear of damaging the rose joint or the cast.

On examination I can't see for the life of me how these spacers can be the right size to slide past the rose as they just are too big! ...by a a mil each I would say..without measuring it! Its tempting to file the damn things down but.....

Go on,,,put me out of my misery!

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Try heating the uprights (in the oven maybe?) and put the Rose joints in the fridge.A freezing cold shrunken joint should interferance fit into the heated and expanded upright.

Edited by GTWayne on Tuesday 6th June 21:18

brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Not sur my wife will like this...but...

What gas mark, Wayne?

Do I bake slowly for a few hrs, or just whack it up to max for 30 mins?

No I am not taking the p$??sss...never tried this before and I would hate to have to baste it!

Brdee




steve_d

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Not happy with the oven idea as it may make the grease run out of the bearings.

If I remember the setup properly there is a hole in the alloy on one side of the fork and a steel sleeve in the other side with the joint/spacers between. I believe the idea is that when you tighten up the bolt you don't bend (and stress) the fork because the sleeve can move in the alloy. If this is the case then perhaps you need to start by pressing the sleeve outwards in the alloy to make the required clearance.

Steve

bigmack

553 posts

289 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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The two steel sleeves are too long. I would file them down until they fit.
Cheers!
-Mack

gdr

589 posts

289 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Hmmmm...

Seeems that maybe I have read something wrong...or....I dunno!

here it is.... I have the upright ...with the fork....with the crush-tube in place...no interferance with the inside of the fork at all...It does not protrude beyond the inside face of the cast.
I have the rose-joint...and two yellow steel spacers and my bolt!

Formula:

(2 x Yellow Steel spacers) + 1 x rose joint = too bloody big for inside fork width, cast face to cast face by around 1-2 millimetres!

I have got to be doing something wrong!


brdee

gdr

589 posts

289 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Maybe as Mack says, spacers too long. Suggest you take measurements and have word with factory.

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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take a measurement.. the rose joint setup should be no longer than the other wishbone bushes (38mm?).

steve_d

13,802 posts

287 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Has to be the factory to answer this one.

Steve

brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Just for others benefit...

I spoke to the factory about this, and they advised that some spacers are actually oversize!!!!!!!!

They recommend that the spacers are gently filed down or emeried so they just slide snuggly into place with no force.

Thank goodness, I thought it was me!!!

brdee

bigmack

553 posts

289 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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ugh...isn't that what I said?!?! ha......
Pretty funny...
Cheers!
-Mack

brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th June 2006
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Now I can leave work early - take max advantage of the sunshine and get these uprights on their way!....ooohhh luverly

Found someone to make my wheeeely dolleeey last week for £200 with some modds - collapsible,. and with mounts that are adjsutable for height!

....and they are promising delivery the weekend.....aaaahhh no more smashing my head on the sharp bits whilst I crawl around my single garage....just wheel it out into the sunshine.....brilliant!

Thanks for your help Guys...

Keith

ezakimak

1,871 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th June 2006
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Collapsible,

Does that mean you will simply be able to put the wheels on and then, shall we say just wind it up and down?

brdee

Original Poster:

3,206 posts

250 months

Thursday 8th June 2006
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Well...not quite totally colapsible maybe.

The dolly with be dismantleable for storage later, and all of the mounts (where the chassis sits) can be moved up and down so you can adjust work height - nothing fantastic!

Love to have found one that you could roll underneath and jack up - and move around on casters, but they cost way over a grand!#


BRDee