Imports

[redz]

Hi people I am just about to buy my first porsche 911 and cannot wait to be part of your gang.

But the seller has just imformed me that the car was inported by a speclist dealer, its a 911 c2/cab/trip on a 03 plate, C25 ? what is the C25 ?
I have HPI checked the car and all is ok but im not sure what this C25 stands for any ideas ?

The only fault I can find onthe car is where the phone sim card pops into the dash the slot will not stay closed, the seller reckons its only a spring that needs replacing, any thoughts

Thanks Robert

Edited by redz on Wednesday 7th June 20:28

[clubsport]

Dunno C25....but it will be the country code...from where the car came

These are real codes;

C23 = australia
c24 = New zealand
c25 = ?????????
c26 = sth africa
c27 = spain

just can't find c25....

the c23, c24, & 26 cars will all be rhd,,,but not probably full uk spec....assuming the car is outside europe, the ride heights and indicators, lights etc may not have been to the same legislation when supplied.

c16 is the code for uk......I appreciate this is a little vague but hopefully gives some idea???

[redz]

Thanks for the quick responce, I have just learnt that C25 is poss is Cyprus, the guy had the car imported from new and has had it for 3 years and mainted by HR Owen I am quite sure it is a uk speced car but destined for another country

Am I getting to bogged down in tec details and not worry ??
Or should I avoid it completly ?

Should it be cheaper to buy ?

[clubsport]

nah...C98 is Cyprus

do a search..on imports for this forum...we have gone over this before..should be cheaper for a newer car....it takes perhaps 5-10 years before the price of these cars is judged totally on condition & provenence......

If you like it buy it...bear in mind it will be harder to sell on than a UK supplied car,,,thats the way the market is...for all of us...so try to get a few grand under what you would pay for a bona fide uk car...good luck.

Edited by clubsport on Wednesday 7th June 21:03

[redz]

Lets hope its not from mars!!

the guy will take 40k, 12,000 miles/c2/cab/trip/sat-nav phone, ect,ect which is which is cheap and that is getting me a bit worried

Edited by redz on Wednesday 7th June 21:29

[gmk666]

Don't know where C25 officially comes from, but if it's got leather and a top tint windscreen, it's probably as UK spec apart from a sticker under the bonnet. Just bear in mind what Clubsport said. If it's cheaper now, it'll be cheaper when you come to sell it. I've just sold a C98 (non-EU RHD) 997 which I took a 'hit' on, but I knew what I was getting into when I bought it new from a specialist in Coventry - I didn't want to wait months and months for a full UK car to my spec and this impatience ultimately cost me a couple of grand. Great car though, so worth every penny.

Edited by gmk666 on Wednesday 7th June 21:46

[magic torch]

Check with some insurance companies.

My quotes went from £400 for a UK car to £900 for an import regardless of the fact is was UK spec.

[zcacogp]

magic torch said:

Check with some insurance companies.

My quotes went from £400 for a UK car to £900 for an import regardless of the fact is was UK spec.

Do you need to tell them?


Oli.

[magic torch]

zcacogp said:

magic torch said:

Check with some insurance companies.

My quotes went from £400 for a UK car to £900 for an import regardless of the fact is was UK spec.

Do you need to tell them?


Oli.

Usually the next question they ask after is it RHD?

[zcacogp]

magic torch said:

Usually the next question they ask after is it RHD?

Hmm. Sounds familiar.

How about "Full UK spec, can't tell whether it was imported as it is identical to UK ones. I have no reason to think it is. Who should I ask?"


Oli.

[leosayer]

redz said:

...cannot wait to be part of your gang.

You do know about the intitiation ceremony don't you?!?

£40k doesn't sound cheap to me for a 3 year old, non-UK model even with all those toys, but then I'm a tight-wad.

Edited to say, assuming this is a private buy.

Edited by leosayer on Thursday 8th June 11:31

[Vesuvius 996]

zcacogp said:

magic torch said:

Check with some insurance companies.

My quotes went from £400 for a UK car to £900 for an import regardless of the fact is was UK spec.

Do you need to tell them?


Oli.

I'm always amazed that people take such a laissez faire attitude to avoiding insurance company requirements. If you don't tell them then you're not insured. Period.

Why risk it for a few quid? Insurance companies have ROOMS full of people who are looking for just such an excuse not to pay out. Why give them the reason?

[zcacogp]

Vesuvius 996 said:

I'm always amazed that people take such a laissez faire attitude to avoiding insurance company requirements. If you don't tell them then you're not insured. Period.

Why risk it for a few quid? Insurance companies have ROOMS full of people who are looking for just such an excuse not to pay out. Why give them the reason?

Fair point.

I guess I'm coming from the point of view that it seems unreasonable that they should charge more than double for cover on an identical vehicle, that will present no greater risk profile to them, and no great cost should it be damaged. If you were trying to insure a non-UK model (or even non-UK spec model) for which there is less risk data, or for which parts are hard (/more expensive) to source, I can understand it, but for an otherwise identical car, that differs only in the country in which it was sold, it seems unreasonable. (Indeed, more unreasonable if the vehicle is cheaper as a result of the above - as replacement will be cheaper.)

Building on that, if the vehicle is really indistinguishable from a UK-sourced car, then how can you really know for sure? Would 99% of the buyers of such a vehicle have spotted it's heritage? They will then, with clear consciences, declare it as a UK model to their insurance companies. If you cannot tell the difference, why should you not do the same?

To me, it just sounds like the UN insurance industry is trying to get one over people who drive something which is fractionally different, and hiding behind some smokescreen to do so.

Just my $0.02's worth.


Oli.

[cnjohnson]

Our Boxster was an import from Cyprus to full UK Specification (Supplied by Autobahn in Coventry). Privelige insurance were quite happy when I told them this and there was no premium loading.

[Vesuvius 996]

zcacogp said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

I'm always amazed that people take such a laissez faire attitude to avoiding insurance company requirements. If you don't tell them then you're not insured. Period.

Why risk it for a few quid? Insurance companies have ROOMS full of people who are looking for just such an excuse not to pay out. Why give them the reason?

Fair point.

I guess I'm coming from the point of view that it seems unreasonable that they should charge more than double for cover on an identical vehicle, that will present no greater risk profile to them, and no great cost should it be damaged. If you were trying to insure a non-UK model (or even non-UK spec model) for which there is less risk data, or for which parts are hard (/more expensive) to source, I can understand it, but for an otherwise identical car, that differs only in the country in which it was sold, it seems unreasonable. (Indeed, more unreasonable if the vehicle is cheaper as a result of the above - as replacement will be cheaper.)

Building on that, if the vehicle is really indistinguishable from a UK-sourced car, then how can you really know for sure? Would 99% of the buyers of such a vehicle have spotted it's heritage? They will then, with clear consciences, declare it as a UK model to their insurance companies. If you cannot tell the difference, why should you not do the same?

To me, it just sounds like the UN insurance industry is trying to get one over people who drive something which is fractionally different, and hiding behind some smokescreen to do so.

Just my $0.02's worth.


Oli.

Agree that this is perverse, but if the insurers are looking at a massive pay out they will not want o pay, and they will simply run a Chassis search with the factory and discover it's not a C16 and knock back the claim.

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Thursday 8th June 17:48

[redz]

Well any way guys C25 is a car that was exported to Thailand, non uk spec/non EU spec so I dont think I`ll bother, it looks like I will be saving a few grand now but will be
a pain in the back side when I go to sell It, Its a shame the seller did not tell me this after my second viewing

[Vesuvius 996]

redz said:

Well any way guys C25 is a car that was exported to Thailand, non uk spec/non EU spec so I dont think I`ll bother, it looks like I will be saving a few grand now but will be
a pain in the back side when I go to sell It, Its a shame the seller did not tell me this after my second viewing

Wonder why...........

[zcacogp]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Agree that this is perverse, but if the insurers are looking at a massive pay out they will not want o pay, and they will simply run a Chassis search with the factory and discover it's not a C16 and knock back the claim.

Agree - and you are probably right. Perverse - good word for it.

BUT, if this actually happened, I'd argue that if the data about it's origin was available to them at the time the policy was taken out, and they didn't load the premium, then it is not reasonable for them to refuse to pay out in the event of a claim.

It would be worth a try ...

Sounds like the OP has decided against it anyway, so it's all academic.


Oli.