Shorts and T-Shirt
Discussion
For all those guys I have seen in the last few days out and about...
SORT IT OUT!!!!!
Skin will be removed, quickly. I know it is hot out there but please consider the consequences. I have just bought some coolmax base layers to keep cool under the leathers.
It may be cool but it is not clever, even down the shops.
SORT IT OUT!!!!!
Skin will be removed, quickly. I know it is hot out there but please consider the consequences. I have just bought some coolmax base layers to keep cool under the leathers.
It may be cool but it is not clever, even down the shops.
Its our choise
I ride with shorts on and go no faster than 30mph. Why..
My push bike i ride to work on goes at 25, and i dont wear my leathers for that. If you are so hot you cant concentrate, its just as dangerous to ride in full kit.
I really see your point and in my job have seen the aftermath, but its still down to the rider.
Would i ride properly in anything other than full kit - NO WAY.
I ride with shorts on and go no faster than 30mph. Why..
My push bike i ride to work on goes at 25, and i dont wear my leathers for that. If you are so hot you cant concentrate, its just as dangerous to ride in full kit.
I really see your point and in my job have seen the aftermath, but its still down to the rider.
Would i ride properly in anything other than full kit - NO WAY.
Don't you think that there's enough legislation already telling us what we can and can't do? I'd bet that if His Tonyness decreed that we all had to be fully kitted up everytime we got on our bikes, they'd be an outcry. If you want to pull on full leathers in this hot & sweaty weather, go ahead, but let others make up their own minds. And yes, I know it hurts. I've been there, but it was my choice, and my right to make that choice.
Pigeon said:
Who mentioned legislation? All I can see is a rant about those who exercise their choice in an unintelligent manner.
My point was; we've got a choice. You only want someone in Government to make the same comment as the original poster, and before you know it, there'll be legislation taking away your choice. Of course, you might be happy to have #10 make your decisions for you. I'd rather make up my own mind. Thanks.
Anyone else remember all the same arguments before the introduction of the compulsory helmet law?
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Bike Cops in France, Italy, USA and many other countries often ride in Short sleeved shirts and normal trousers. I may normally ride in full leathers etc but have ridden in t-shirts, shorts, no helmet and may do again, I will decide for myself what to wear - I'm harming no-one but myself if it all goes wrong.
If 'unsuitable' clothing were banned on safety grounds then by the same token No-one could argue that Biking should not be banned, for the same reason - riding a Bike is dangerous, live with that or give it up!
It may not be your choice of attire but if people want to ride like that it is no-ones business but their own.
If 'unsuitable' clothing were banned on safety grounds then by the same token No-one could argue that Biking should not be banned, for the same reason - riding a Bike is dangerous, live with that or give it up!
It may not be your choice of attire but if people want to ride like that it is no-ones business but their own.
mtbr said:
Anyone else remember all the same arguments before the introduction of the compulsory helmet law?
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Thanks MTBR. Exactly my point.
The chap on the A1(M) heading south lunchtime today on the triumph looked incredibly brave at 90+ in a tee shirt and (IIRC) shorts. Had to wince at the thought of the giant beefburger he'd look like at the end of the skid.
I'd never think of riding without the one piece/armour on.
However.... that's just my opinion, I want to have the freedom of choice to wear whatever the devil I like on my bike, we live in enough of a nanny state already.
SM
I'd never think of riding without the one piece/armour on.
However.... that's just my opinion, I want to have the freedom of choice to wear whatever the devil I like on my bike, we live in enough of a nanny state already.
SM
if im just going locally i will just wear a protective jacket, jeans and gloves and usually mos of the time my boots too but if im going out for a proper ride i will wear leathers as this is the time i will be riding the quickest, for instance the other day when the M25 was completly 
ed and traffic was at a standstill everywhere i had to go from my house to the shop about 1/2 a mile up the road of which i knew was solid traffic and i did this journey in a t shirt because i knew i was going to be going more than about 20 mph.
ed and traffic was at a standstill everywhere i had to go from my house to the shop about 1/2 a mile up the road of which i knew was solid traffic and i did this journey in a t shirt because i knew i was going to be going more than about 20 mph.Adetuono said:
mtbr said:
Anyone else remember all the same arguments before the introduction of the compulsory helmet law?
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Whilst I would never ride without my crash helmet (or gloves, boots and leathers for that matter)
I deeply resent the fact that it is not by my free choice, but rather other people impose it on me.
The facts that it is stupid not to wear protective clothing, that it may lead to horrible and unnecessary injuries and cost the heath service a small fortune are all less significant than my freedom to choose. It's only a short leap of logic from the "it's for your own good arguments" to say it's stupid to ride motorcycles full stop.
This country would be a far better place if we could all learn to stay out of each other's business and get on with our own lives.
For all the "self-righteous" out there who would like to further curtail my personal freedom- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
Thanks MTBR. Exactly my point.
Don't flame me, but my take on it is yes biking is dangerous and as such we should do it responsibly... (ish
) Ride safe
Paul
I'm sure you all realise we're the only country in the world where the biking community as a whole considers that not wearing helmets, gloves, full leathers and boots (and perish the thought you might not be wearing "proper" bike boots....) to ride everywhere?
I've worked in a couple of different places and have seen different attitudes to bikers. I showed a lad in Brasil a few UK bike mags, and he was amazed that there were "special suits" you could buy to ride a bike in!
Over in Pensylvania, they repealed the helmet laws when the new governor took over (he was into bikes) so i took the opportunity to go for a spin on my mate's RD400 with no lid on, and I can tell you, with jeans and a T-shirt and no helmet, you do tend to ride a bit more carefully.
Each to their own, lads.
I've worked in a couple of different places and have seen different attitudes to bikers. I showed a lad in Brasil a few UK bike mags, and he was amazed that there were "special suits" you could buy to ride a bike in!
Over in Pensylvania, they repealed the helmet laws when the new governor took over (he was into bikes) so i took the opportunity to go for a spin on my mate's RD400 with no lid on, and I can tell you, with jeans and a T-shirt and no helmet, you do tend to ride a bit more carefully.
Each to their own, lads.
I have met several people who came off in inappropriate clothing. All regret their youthful overconfidence. All now ride only with proper protective clothing (those who can ride, one chap has no ankle bone on LH side as it was ground off - see TRIKE for future transport)
It is a mark of intelligence to learn from the mistakes of others. But, as you say, as there's no law on the matter it's your choice to learn or not learn.
Keep the rubber side down
It is a mark of intelligence to learn from the mistakes of others. But, as you say, as there's no law on the matter it's your choice to learn or not learn.
Keep the rubber side down
Robbo SPS said:
Its our choise
I ride with shorts on and go no faster than 30mph. Why..
My push bike i ride to work on goes at 25, and i dont wear my leathers for that. If you are so hot you cant concentrate, its just as dangerous to ride in full kit.
I really see your point and in my job have seen the aftermath, but its still down to the rider.
Would i ride properly in anything other than full kit - NO WAY.
I ride with shorts on and go no faster than 30mph. Why..
My push bike i ride to work on goes at 25, and i dont wear my leathers for that. If you are so hot you cant concentrate, its just as dangerous to ride in full kit.
I really see your point and in my job have seen the aftermath, but its still down to the rider.
Would i ride properly in anything other than full kit - NO WAY.
I agree with this statement, in the fact that Tesco is 1.5 miles from my house, all down hill. I get up to 30 mph on my mountain bike and nobody give a toss about shorts and t-shirt then. I have only been out on the CBR without protective clothing once and that was to do this that journey to Tesco, other than that, leathers all the way. However when i used to go out with my Dad on his Suzuki Intruder, that was always shorts and T-shirt, custom bikes seem to get away with it more.
D
My initial comment is advisory. Yes each to their own, smoke, drink; do as you please. I just wanted to highlight awareness as to some of the riders out there seem to use it as a show of bravery, etc.
I personally feel very vulnerable in anything less than full leathers.
Would it really be a bad thing if the government made full protection compulsory? Would you really feel that oppressed by such a ruling? I know that this country is becoming more nanny state by the week; but surely, in this case, it is not such a bad idea?
I personally feel very vulnerable in anything less than full leathers.
Would it really be a bad thing if the government made full protection compulsory? Would you really feel that oppressed by such a ruling? I know that this country is becoming more nanny state by the week; but surely, in this case, it is not such a bad idea?
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