So hypothetically speaking...
So hypothetically speaking...
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supermono

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7,464 posts

278 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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If I was to go from a 2002 turbo -> 2004 GT3 with the bucket seats, what would I notice? On the motorways? On the smooth A roads and on the choppy b-roads?

Just wondering, like. The man from Cambridge might force me into a test drive this weekend.

SM

polarexpress

6,796 posts

257 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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Steering feel, precision, engine and road noise, and everything else that makes a great drivers car...

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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The GT3's road manners are apparently better on PCCBs.

DanH

12,287 posts

290 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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Geneve said:
The GT3's road manners are apparently better on PCCBs.


From my experience, not noticeably.

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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supermono said:
If I was to go from a 2002 turbo -> 2004 GT3 with the bucket seats, what would I notice? On the motorways? On the smooth A roads and on the choppy b-roads?

Just wondering, like. The man from Cambridge might force me into a test drive this weekend.

SM


A feeling of lightness and agility never previously witnessed in your Turbo
(And an engine with more linear responses/power delivery too )

Only days ago Supermoaner said:
Love the car to bits but if this debacle doesn't go my way, the 997tt plans are out of the window as are the 996GT3 ones.


Bit fickle aint'cha ? Or did you do some deep breathing exercises over the weekend ?

Edited by slippydiff on Monday 12th June 15:11

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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supermono said:
If I was to go from a 2002 turbo -> 2004 GT3 with the bucket seats, what would I notice? On the motorways? On the smooth A roads and on the choppy b-roads?

Just wondering, like. The man from Cambridge might force me into a test drive this weekend.

SM
How lacking in torque the gt3 is.Thats what you would notice...

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

278 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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slippydiff said:
Only days ago Supermoaner said:
Love the car to bits but if this debacle doesn't go my way, the 997tt plans are out of the window as are the 996GT3 ones.


Bit fickle aint'cha ? Or did you do some deep breathing exercises over the weekend ?

Edited by slippydiff on Monday 12th June 15:11

Well certainly I'll be shelving my "plans" if they decide to rip me off with the faulty clutch...

I was just struck by the beauty of the thing what with its seats, yellow belts, polished roll cage, ceramic brakes and am quite interested in this legendary driving experience they're supposed to give. Have to be pretty good to improve on the turbo though (flame suit on)

SM

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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Lack of torque amply outweighed by stunning the noise as you head towards the redline ! And mines only a Mk1 !

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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supermono said:
slippydiff said:
Only days ago Supermoaner said:
Love the car to bits but if this debacle doesn't go my way, the 997tt plans are out of the window as are the 996GT3 ones.


Bit fickle aint'cha ? Or did you do some deep breathing exercises over the weekend ?

Edited by slippydiff on Monday 12th June 15:11

Well certainly I'll be shelving my "plans" if they decide to rip me off with the faulty clutch...

I was just struck by the beauty of the thing what with its seats, yellow belts, polished roll cage, ceramic brakes and am quite interested in this legendary driving experience they're supposed to give. Have to be pretty good to improve on the turbo though (flame suit on)

SM
Dont believe the hype,stick with the turb.Theres no point looking like Derek Bell when some geezer blasts past you in a turb..torque is what you need on the road...also now putting on flameproof suit

supermono

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7,464 posts

278 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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kayc said:
Theres no point looking like Derek Bell when some geezer blasts past you in a turb..torque is what you need on the road...also now putting on flameproof suit

I like the cut of your jib

SM

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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supermono said:
kayc said:
Theres no point looking like Derek Bell when some geezer blasts past you in a turb..torque is what you need on the road...also now putting on flameproof suit

I like the cut of your jib

SM
SM have you checked out the DMS upgrade?If you are getting bored with a turb i think that may keep your interest you for a while...

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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Ahhhhh, if all else fails to excite, add a large dollop of horsepower to the mix.
After all, there's nothing brute force and ignorance can't overcome

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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kayc said:
Dont believe the hype,stick with the turb.Theres no point looking like Derek Bell when some geezer blasts past you in a turb..torque is what you need on the road...also now putting on flameproof suit


Surely you're not advocating racing on the public highway are you

If however, the comment was aimed at trackday use you'd best make that a quadruple layer flame suit !!

kayc

4,492 posts

251 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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slippydiff said:
Ahhhhh, if all else fails to excite, add a large dollop of horsepower to the mix.
After all, there's nothing brute force and ignorance can't overcome
Exactly but it makes a perfect car FEEL quick.the turbo is so well sorted that it needs 500bhp to unsettle it!..if you want a great drive and no grunt get an Elise.

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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kayc said:

Exactly but it makes a perfect car FEEL quick.the turbo is so well sorted that it needs 500bhp to unsettle it!..if you want a great drive and no grunt get an Elise.


Talk about going from the sublime to the ridiculous !!

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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I can see KayC's point. There is something pleasant about the TT's torque. The AWD and weight is a bit of a turn off, but other than that its a lot of supercar for £55k-£60k. I bought my GT3 for other reasons - they do have a 'mystique' about them and they are Porsche's 'track car'. I have no doubt that a turbo is more comfortable, easier to drive, safer to drive fast etc etc, but those things don't make up for the lack of GT3 badge on the back....

slippydiff

16,386 posts

253 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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johnfm said:
I have no doubt that a turbo is more comfortable, easier to drive, safer to drive fast etc


Ahhhhh you're talking about everyday cars there John, I'm talking about something to open the garage doors to at 5 am on a Sunday morning and think "It's showtime !"

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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slippydiff said:
johnfm said:
I have no doubt that a turbo is more comfortable, easier to drive, safer to drive fast etc


Ahhhhh you're talking about everyday cars there John, I'm talking about something to open the garage doors to at 5 am on a Sunday morning and think "It's showtime !"


I get the same feeling with my MK1. Great occasion, even just popping down to Sainsburys!!

TCB

109 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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I don't see why people say that the GT3 is not a great everyday car............


I've driven mine everyday since I picked mine up and it's been great everytime !

IMO the MK1 GT3 is greatest porsche ever built !

s3am

1,383 posts

282 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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DanH said:
Geneve said:
The GT3's road manners are apparently better on PCCBs.


From my experience, not noticeably.


Personally I felt the GT3 did ride slightly better with the PCCB's, but not well enough to outweigh their fragility.