2 elise problems...
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GR1FF

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36 posts

245 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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squeaky brakes and a suspension-like clunk from the o/s/r wheel... common problems? apart from that, should i check any other 'problem' areas (i've not had it long)?

lawrence5

1,254 posts

266 months

Monday 12th June 2006
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TADTS (They all do that sir) ge used to hearing it !

S1 or S2 ?

www.elise-faq.info/content/buying/index.php

www.elises.co.uk/problems/index.html

GR1FF

Original Poster:

36 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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'97 S1, thanks for the links... put my mind at rest a bit. I'll think about upgrading the brakes...

lawrence5

1,254 posts

266 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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Brakes are not servo assisted so take some getting used too. Pedal should be very firm when pressed it feels like nothing happens initially then they bite. Should be very effective (light car) if not there may be issues.

Suspension is crashy - check to see if you are on Koni shocks. If so a nice mod is the S2 suspension kit. Lower springs and better specified bilstein shocks. Massive improvement for a few hundred notes.....

Welcome to Lotus ownership BTW

S works

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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The squeaky brakes could also be to do with what pads you have fitted - some of the more track oriented pads squeal like buggery at times. Or they may need replacing if they're close to the metal!

Mr_C

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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a '97 car will have MMC discs. Mine squeal like a bitch too. You get used to it, although it can be a bit embarressing when you pull up at a pelican crossing and there's loads of fit girls there looking at what all the noise is about...

although when they're warm (hot!) they are quiet.

S works

10,166 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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Squeaky brakes drawing attention from fit little fillies causing embarassment? Shurely Shome Mishtake!!

Squealy brakes identify the sportscar to the lady, and hence the butch, manly, hairy, Hi-Karate and medallion wearing, racecar driver within!

Watch them go weak at the knees...

GR1FF

Original Poster:

36 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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glad i just took a look at the shocks - i've noticed the pads need replacing all round! it's a job i'll happily do myself - what pads should i get? (i'm not doing track days)...

the shocks are red - fairly descriptive i know, but does that make them koni? as the knocking - just an old worn bush?

turnamere

315 posts

266 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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If they're red then they are the original Konis, the knocking (if it sounds like 2 snooker balls colliding) is normal, they are however, prone to leaking which will be apparent on the lower portion. Once they start to leak they aren't long for this world. * bolts to change the lot, options, depending on depth of your pockets are:

- like for like, cheapest but will probably leak again soon.
- S2 kit using Bilstein dampers, only slightly more expensive than new reds but much better; a good road compromise.
- Nitrons/Ohlins, adjustable, > £1,100, serious track day enthusiasts.

TIPPER

2,955 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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Mintex 1144 pads are oft recommended as a good compromise pad for road use but if you have the MMC brakes its loads of ££££££ to Lotus I'm afraid.
Welcome to Elise ownership too

GR1FF

Original Poster:

36 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th June 2006
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the brakes are vented but not grooved/xdrilled - and the calipers are lotus originals - are other pads not compatible?

GR1FF

Original Poster:

36 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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i've seen some mintex pads on ebay - will they work? and the snooker ball knocking from one corner of the car - nothing to worry about?

TIPPER

2,955 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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GR1FF, you'll almost cetainly have MMC discs on a 97 Elise. As far as I know you have to get the pads from Lotus for these - the're not the same as 'ordinary' pads. The MMC brakes do have a reputation for squealing but a few hard stops from speed can help alleviate the problem. I'd get a Lotus dealer to check to see what sort of discs you have. BTW although my car doesn't have them I understand the MMC brakes are superb - Lotus only stopped using them due to sourcing difficulties.
Re the knocking shocks. Sounds like Konis. TADTS. But check the're not leaking oil. Talk to SteveB on Seloc re suspension upgrades.

GR1FF

Original Poster:

36 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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thanks TIPPER, thats all pretty clear! i'll have to get the pads sorted asp and i'll be checking the shocks...

Mr_C

2,508 posts

260 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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IIRC the pads SHOULD last about 70k miles? mine are on 30k and look new!

steff

1,421 posts

294 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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TIPPER said:
I'd get a Lotus dealer to check to see what sort of discs you have.


I'd stick a magnet on the disk, if it falls off you have mmc's.

sp60

524 posts

290 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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What...you mean the disc falls off when it comes close to a magnet...

Glad I got an S2

P13EES

4 posts

260 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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I heard Lotus don't sell the pads anymore for the MMC discs, but i may be wrong!?!?

Should be easy to tell if you have MMC discs as there wont be any rust on them just a mat grey where they have not been in contact with the pads and have anodised.

My S1 use to squeak a little if i hadnt really been driving it, i found a couple of hard stops sorted it....

TIPPER

2,955 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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steff said:
TIPPER said:
I'd get a Lotus dealer to check to see what sort of discs you have.


I'd stick a magnet on the disk, if it falls off you have mmc's.


Now why didn't I think of that?

cej

961 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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sp60 said:
What...you mean the disc falls off when it comes close to a magnet...

Glad I got an S2