Grrrrrr, failed bike test!!!
Grrrrrr, failed bike test!!!
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julianb

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311 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Ho hum,

cheesed off tonight or what! Just put in, what I thought was a fairly safe ride, and it got pulled to pieces for being steady.

I kept to a 50mph speed limit on a dual-carriageway around Cowley, Oxford, and the examiners attitude was that I should have gone faster. There were a few other minors, but that was the crux of the problem.

Really confused now. Been driving since 1988, and as I recall, speeding was an instant fail?


Anyhoo. Taking it all on the chin and already organising a re-test.

Any pointers?


regards


Ju

chrissarjeant

160 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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When I took my test I was told by my instructor to show I was making progress etc so when I took the test I made sure I overtook a car on the duel track instead of sitting behind at 50 - 55 and playing it safe.Even then the 1 thing he did pick up on was that I could have gone quicker .Make sure you do the re-test ASAP it's so worth it .

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Did he write down what your faults were? You definitely wouldn't be encouraged to exceed the speed limit. You might have been too leisurely getting to it. They like to see confident progress. I'm fairly sure that would be a 'minor' though.

Still, at least you didn't fail on the U-turn!!!

Chin up and better luck next time.

Damiencbr

2,037 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Bad Luck!

I failed my first test for not stopping at a zebra crossing, sh!t happens though. The only thing i was taught when i did my direct access course was if it was a 50 or 60 zone then get to the speed quickly, you need to show the examiner you can handle the 500cc or what is the point of having.

I am sure you will do it next time.

D

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Yep, probably right. Thinking about it, perhaps I wasn't positive enough in my acceleration. I think from the examiners perspective the traffic behind was hassling him.

Oxford chav drivers.... :-)

Anyway, looks like I'll be doing it all again in three weeks time, so no biggie.


What does concern me is that, the test around Oxford is lots of nadgery bits of residential roads. My instructor said keep it around 20mph where you've got narrow streets with lots of cars. I just don't feel safe carving through them.

I guess some practice on a 125 might be the ticket.


cheers


J.

scratch pervert

497 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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A girl that I took my first test with also failed on the same thing. I think, as has already been said, that it was due taking too long to reach the speed limit.

You need to get out there and take it again asap, it's defo the most amount of fun you can possibly have... with your clothes on anyway

chrissarjeant

160 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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Was your instructor in a car or on a bike as mine was in a car and that held me back as i thought he would get held up more ,but if you do make a gap they just tell you to turn into a side street anyway .So if he/she is in a car forget about them and just think about your riding .

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Wednesday 14th June 2006
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No, he was on a bike, Pan Euro type of thing behind a nice big screen :-) Whilst I got battered on an unfaired 500 Suzuki. Hey - no more excuses. I cocked up. Let's do it again ang get it right.


Mind you the ride back to the training centre was waaay better!!!

petclub

5,486 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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Bad luck, I was told the examiner would look for safe but quick progress. Round us there are a couple of dual carriageways where the expectation is to reach the national speed limit (if safe to do so). On my test, I reached 60, was accelerating but the bike wouldn't go into 5th. As the road was shortish and it threw me a little, I didn't get to 70. At the de-brief, I thought I'd mention the gearbox problem, but the examiner said I'd made appropriate progress.

So, they do look for progress, but in the right place at the right time. Don't be disheartened, I failed my first by tap dancing on the U turn! The second didn't 'feel' quite as profcient, but it was a pass with only 4 'minors'. Good luck

Twit

2,908 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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Bad luck, just get back in there!

I took my test in Oxford and I know what you mean about the small roads etc. all you can do is what you feel comfortable with, you won't fail for not filtering so just make progress as best you can.

Is the dual carriageway road Cowley not a 60 limit? I always thougth it was and certainly on my test I was taken down it and I'm sure I went to 60?

Good luck next time!

yellowvette

1,142 posts

244 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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I agree with others - I think it's all down to whether you give the impression that you believe in your own riding ability. Basically, hanging back around 50 on a good 70 mph road can (and it seems, was) be taken as a lack of confidence - which is as bad on a bike as over-confidence. Best of luck with the next attempt. I took my test back in '88 when the examiner still wandered around the course on foot - could do anything when out of sight and still pass

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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Cheers,

cheered me up no end. With regard to the Oxford ring road speed limits - they do vary, some bits 50, some 60. I think part of the issue for me is getting used to being flayed by the wind at those speeds on an unfaired bike!!!


regards


J.

muffles

516 posts

244 months

Thursday 15th June 2006
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julianb said:
Yep, probably right. Thinking about it, perhaps I wasn't positive enough in my acceleration. I think from the examiners perspective the traffic behind was hassling him.

Oxford chav drivers.... :-)

Anyway, looks like I'll be doing it all again in three weeks time, so no biggie.


What does concern me is that, the test around Oxford is lots of nadgery bits of residential roads. My instructor said keep it around 20mph where you've got narrow streets with lots of cars. I just don't feel safe carving through them.

I guess some practice on a 125 might be the ticket.


cheers


J.


it's because the examiner had to go at the same speed as you, which wasn't the limit, and traffic queued up behind i think. I had the same thing, it means you're interfering with traffic

Barsteward

3 posts

236 months

Monday 19th June 2006
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I would challenge the result if that was his main reason. Write to DLA

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Monday 19th June 2006
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Nope, I'll do it again and aim for a clean sheet this time!

I try to be philosophical - he had mine and everyone else's safety in mind. If I didn't demonstrate I was ready then it was absolutely the right decision.

cheers

J.

driller

8,310 posts

300 months

Monday 19th June 2006
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I failed my test first time-for speeding! My instructor wouldn't stop going on about this "making progress" thing, and so I did...Was pissed off as otherwise it was perfect.

gordski

107 posts

236 months

Monday 19th June 2006
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Bad luck on the test
Did you do anything else wrong, as you need to get 5 minor points (foot down etc) or one major to fail? Majors are the old U-turn fun and games.

I managed to pass with only 3 points, foot down (or bike was going down), not looking again and again on U-Turn and riding to close to the crub after turning right at T junction (big lorry on other side of road). Examiner was a bit of an prat but passed me, so engaged brain before mouth!!

Having said that just driven home and some poor lad on a moped was being taken away in ambulance, neck and leg brace, mini cooper s involved. Didn't look good, but here's hopeing all is well.

Take it easy on re-test.

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Tuesday 20th June 2006
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Yep, there were three minors as well - I fluffed cancelling an indicator, and mis-timed a couple of shoulder checks.

Had it not been for the cock-up on the dual carriageway I might just have scraped through!

cartoons

101 posts

271 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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my instructor told me to accelerate briskly to give the examiner the space to speed up too,and keep far enough back from you as he did so,without interfering with traffic behind him (if you see what i mean!).anyway,i gave it plenty leaving an island,forgetting that the renault megane he way driving wasn`t going to trouble me too much on the run to the next island! had a great test and hardly saw him,and passed with one minor.so next time,speed up asap,and spend half of your test at the side of the road waiting for him! good luck

julianb

Original Poster:

311 posts

236 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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I PASSED TODAY. YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Couldn't believe it. I thought I'd blown it for sure - didn't feel anything like as good a ride as the first time, but there you go. Only got two minors, a complete contrast to the last test.

Even the lad that was with me passed, and our trainer didn't think he stood a cat in hell's chance after an absolutely appalling morning's practice.

One small problem, somewhere between the test centre and home I appear to have lost my licence - entirely possible it slipped out of my jacket!!! Bugger!!!!!!!

Ah well, time to crank up the spanking new CBR 600 RR in the garage and go for a (steady) spin....