Speedo Accuracy!!?
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Turks111

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29 posts

260 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Went to Le Mans last weekend, one word - Awesome!!

Anyway, we drove down from Calais along side a mate in a BMW 316i (03). During one fairly long fast blat, I was wondering why the hell we weren't pulling away faster so I slowed down and asked (shouted through an open window) what his speedo read...to cut a long story short see below:

BMW 90mph
LIZ 95mph

BMW 100mph
LIZ 108mph

BMW 129mph
LIZ 140mph

Anyone know whether this is an inaccuracy across the board or whether my speedo is RUBBISH!! Of course I am assuming hear that the BMW Speedo is more correct than mine, which may not be the case!! That said - there is no way a fully loaded (or driver only for that matter) 316i saloon will do 140mph!!

What ya think??

T

simonk

908 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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My tomtom gives a gps speed of 76mph when the speedo in the lotus says 80.

Funnily enough i also drive a bmw which is exactly the same!

Simon

sp60

524 posts

290 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Mines about 10mph out from zero up to about 70 ish where the descrepancy becomes less.
Unfortunately mine underreads though. Plenty of old posts about speedo problems and misreads so i think it is just one of those things. You can reset by using following method, but I've not heard of a case where this has resolved it yet:

Drivers door open...press and hold the mileage reset button....switch ignition on (don't start).

The needles wibble around a bit (technical term!) then settle.

Turks111

Original Poster:

29 posts

260 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Arrrrr cheers sp60 I'll give that a try ;-)

cheekymonkey

1,139 posts

255 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Yeah I think they're all a bit off... I got 143 on the dial in my 111s and i know that it shouldn;t theoretically be able to go that fast! My Origin B2 should about an 8% discrepancy at top speeds

shangani

3,069 posts

268 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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My S2 111s is about spot on with my GPS for every speed I have done in the car up to 100 mph. Above 100mph (on trackdays) the GPS is stowed away so I can't comment.

S Works

10,166 posts

281 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Mine reads +1mph from actual, confirmed by GPS.

Anatol

1,392 posts

265 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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GPS suggests our Exige over-reports by about 2%.

Tol

eviloverlord

26 posts

245 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Up to 70mph mine (S1 111S) reads to within 1mph of GPS speed.

It's normal for most cars to over-report speed. It's leagal for a speedo to over-read by 5% and under-read by 1%, so most cars over-read by 3-4%. I was told a story that audi carefully set their speedos at 5% over-read so that the services came up 5% sooner. Sounds a bit paranoid to me.

PB9

175 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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My S2 111S shows 76 mph for a GPS of 70mph

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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I had an indicated 143mph on my first Elise...basic (non-VVC) S1 with very mild mods (sports exhaust, decat, big throttle body & air filter). Call it 130mph down hill with a following wind?

cej

961 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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Mine's accurate within a couple of mph

rixge

292 posts

256 months

Friday 23rd June 2006
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111R Speedo showed 150, gps showed 140, pants showed skids!

Yee haa!

590 posts

247 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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mines within 1 mph at 70. my old mondeo however gives 75 at 80 on my gps

andy_s

19,857 posts

290 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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Mines (S2 111s) a few mph out at and after 70, lower than that it's up and down so much it's difficult to tell!

klemheist

148 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th June 2006
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2003 111S I track mine from a laptop / GPS its within 1.75% upto 115 not that Id do that anyway

sp60

524 posts

290 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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eviloverlord said:
It's normal for most cars to over-report speed. It's leagal for a speedo to over-read by 5% and under-read by 1%, so most cars over-read by 3-4%. I was told a story that audi carefully set their speedos at 5% over-read so that the services came up 5% sooner. Sounds a bit paranoid to me.


Interesting point that i wondered about...I checked the MOT requirements out the other day to see what the margins for speedo error might be....no mention of speedo accuracy at all, in fact no mention of the speedo at all. Presumabley this means that the speedo is not required by law (but speeding is illegal so you need some way of knowing what speed you are doing). This has further implications as to the requirements for an odometer and it's readings.
On a similar issue, it's interesting that GPS readings are taken by most as being very accurate. I bet if you read the documentation, it will state at least a 5% margin error in the indicated speed. Not having GPS, I can't comment!
Just a ramble really !

Sublime

142 posts

250 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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sp60 said:
eviloverlord said:
It's normal for most cars to over-report speed. It's leagal for a speedo to over-read by 5% and under-read by 1%, so most cars over-read by 3-4%. I was told a story that audi carefully set their speedos at 5% over-read so that the services came up 5% sooner. Sounds a bit paranoid to me.


Interesting point that i wondered about...I checked the MOT requirements out the other day to see what the margins for speedo error might be....no mention of speedo accuracy at all, in fact no mention of the speedo at all. Presumabley this means that the speedo is not required by law (but speeding is illegal so you need some way of knowing what speed you are doing). This has further implications as to the requirements for an odometer and it's readings.
On a similar issue, it's interesting that GPS readings are taken by most as being very accurate. I bet if you read the documentation, it will state at least a 5% margin error in the indicated speed. Not having GPS, I can't comment!
Just a ramble really !


From recollection I believe it is a requirement to have a speedometer that works, i.e., moves or reads in a linear fashion, but that it doesn't have to be accurate, silly I know but then there are alot of laws like that.

Edited by Sublime on Monday 26th June 10:05

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

281 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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PB9 said:
My S2 111S shows 76 mph for a GPS of 70mph



Yup, same here. Also, my 132mph car does (according to the speedo) 142mph.

pjm

92 posts

254 months

Monday 26th June 2006
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Autocar publish the mph/1000rpm in each gear when they do a full road-test. 111r in 6th was geared for 19.8. Assuming the rev-counter is accurate, mine reads 86mph at 4k revs, so about 8% too fast.