what could this missfire be?!?!
what could this missfire be?!?!
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dc53

Original Poster:

3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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hi all i am on the urge of buying 4.2 cerb from a5 car sales http://dealerservices.autotrader.co.u ithas a slight missfire at low end revs at about 3000 revs and under,and also it has no missfire with the laptop plugged in but when it isnt it runs like crap under 3000 revs but past 3000 revs it runs better than most other 4.2's all help would be appreciatted as this car has everything we want in a cerb so all help greatly appreciatted
cheers DC53
oh by the way on the a5 website it is the bright yellow cerb about 1/4 way down the page

Edited by dc53 on Sunday 25th June 16:22

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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what chip has it got fitted? When did it last have the tappets done or a service? The eng might need setting up - airflow/laptop etc.,

dc53

Original Poster:

3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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hi the engine was set up on a laptop and it ran fine on the laptop and as soon as it came off the laptop it was doing it again

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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Has it got a factory chip in? Has it been set up with the factory software? Might need a de-throttle chip - laptops don't pick up anything if this is the case? Might need the airflow setting up with a synchrometer? Tappets might need doing?

dc53

Original Poster:

3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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it was in at silverstone performance apparently they set the tappets and changed the lamba sensors all new plugs and leads plus some other stuff so we are going to find out the rest on monday.it sounds to me as it could be the ECU but we do not know enough about them.
thanks for the info

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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there's nothing that the laptop can do to change the engine running in real time whilst it's connected except for resetting the fuel trim values. in that case if there was an underlying fault the ecu would re-learn bad values as before, but it takes a while .. typically say 30 seconds at any one load site ..

so does the misfire return *immediately* the laptop is disconnected (indicating they have a problem with their laptop/ecu connecttion which is somehow disguising the fault whilst teh laptop is connected) or does it happen after a short time interval (indicating a problem with the engine and the ecu is re-learning bad fuel trim values after they've been reset to zero) .. more info required on this one.

dc53

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3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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hi we was told that it is as soon as it comes off of the laptop as it is not our car till next week but we are very interested and have put a deposit down as it is perfect for us but could this missfire become costly and if so how much if you could estimate

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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dc53 said:
hi we was told that it is as soon as it comes off of the laptop


that would be highly unusual then ..

dc53

Original Poster:

3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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could it end up being costly then

gazzab

21,638 posts

311 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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Of course a misfire could be costly! Up to £10K if new engine! Most likely £3-5K for engine rebuild. Might be nothing though. Maybe ask to get it to a talented indie?

dc53

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3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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thats just made me want to go and kill myself up to 10k sh1t!!!!

DuncanM

7,460 posts

308 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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Serious question, why buy it with the missfire?

If it's from a dealer then surely you should just be patient and wait until it's sorted or look elsewhere .

Duncan

dc53

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3,217 posts

249 months

Sunday 25th June 2006
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me and my dad have been wanting a cerb for ages now and everyone we liked was to expensive or didnt want a px for our chim