Stroked C4
Author
Discussion

mark r skinner

Original Poster:

16,745 posts

239 months

Monday 26th June 2006
quotequote all
Would like to stroke C4 (1989) Know that 3.75 crank will work, what about 3.85 or 4.00?!

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Monday 26th June 2006
quotequote all
How far do you want to go? There's a lot written about what cranks and blocks allow you to do what. 383 is the easy one (uses 400 crank, actually cheaper than the 350 crank, but has some balancing issues to overcome, but obviously Chevy do small blocks up to 400 cu in.

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Monday 26th June 2006
quotequote all
Oooh - since it's a C4 - be aware of the following:

The inlet system on a C4 runs out of puff at circa 4000rpm - mainly since it's set up for low down pull, and second since GM actually designed and cast these manifolds originally for a 5.0 small block (they thought legislation was going to drive capacities down - luckily it never happened) - so you would do with working on the induction side with some higher flow runners/enlarged manifold.

So if you're trying to move more air with a capacity increase - it might be an idea to consider that so it doesn't 'choke' the engines potential. There are other options too, like the Accel Super-Ram or if I was going to do it, perhaps the TPIs Mini Ram - actually rumoured to havve been copied by GM for the LT-1. In fact, the manifold design alone is put down to most of the hp increase on an LT-1 over the L-98.

Good thing is, the capacity increase cancels out the slight loss of low down go that would be experienced with the short runner intake.

All this is bits I've gleaned from books and t'internet - so apologies can't say this is from actual experience! I was thinking of building (rebuilding) an '86 engine to this sort of spec after it did a big end, then found cheap second hand engine so stopped dreaming!

chevy-stu

5,392 posts

250 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
Worth bearing in mindd on what you want the engine to do, strokers don't rev as quick but you get the extra torque.

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
Don't think that will have an appreciable effect (extra power available will still make the whole package accelerate faster)

met a guy in the US who autocrosses a C4, rev's were very important to him to save constant gearchanges, his 383 was built to rev even harder than stock.

BUT - that'll cost a little more in more exotic steel whirly bits.

I think if you stroked without attacking the engine's breathing capabilities - you'd probably find it even more of a stump-puller, but as Stu says, perhaps a little less revvy than stock.

Is your car an auto or a manual?

mark r skinner

Original Poster:

16,745 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
6 speed manual. It`s a mates car, by the way.

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
That makes life a bit easier from a tuning perspective. It's easy to mess up the performance of an auto by tuning the engine in the wrong way.

Is he rebuilding the engine for a reason other than tuning?

mark r skinner

Original Poster:

16,745 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
Not really. I think it`s just the pros and cons of various tuning options.

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
Procharger do a nice bolt on intercooled option - think it works out £3-4k for a straightforward bolt on kit.

Performance is good, increase in power I think is 70% over stock. Apparently puts L-98 in ZR1 territory on the strip!

mark r skinner

Original Poster:

16,745 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
70%

franv8

2,212 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all

Camaro SS

243 posts

268 months

Tuesday 27th June 2006
quotequote all
I've got a Procharger on the SS (LT1), adds in the region of 50% extra power if tuned correctly, sounds awesome bit noisy for some tastes, the Vortex ones are a bit quieter. Also tried to have a 383 stroker kit but thats another story which most of you know!

mark r skinner

Original Poster:

16,745 posts

239 months

Sunday 13th August 2006
quotequote all
Thanks for the info, I`ve picked up some good tips.