coulthard defends button and honda
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Jenson Button should not shoulder any of the blame for Honda Racing's current difficulties in the sport, claims his close friend David Coulthard.
Despite Coulthard compounding Button's troubled season by snatching eighth place from him in the closing stages of the Canadian Grand Prix, the Red Bull Racing driver believes that his rival should not be criticised for what is going on at his team moment.
"Jenson is going through a tough time," said Coulthard. "His car just did not seem good. I'd say Jenson is still solid, doing a good job.But you can only pee with the cock you have got.
"Honda are having troubled times. In many ways, I think the team were promising before they had delivered anything but podiums. I am not belittling podiums, but I just know how difficult it is when you are winning to continue winning.
"The team put too much expectation on themselves and the drivers, when they had not even won one race."
Coulthard's comments come on the back of claims from some of Honda's rivals that the recent staffing reshuffle at the team could leave them up to three years away from challenging at the front of the grid.
Honda boss Nick Fry has made it clear, however, that he does not believe it will take long for the impact of the recent changes to be felt. This comes despite technical director Geoff Willis having left the team after Shuhei Nakamoto was promoted to senior technical director.
"I wouldn't necessarily agree with that one," said Fry about suggestions it would take three years for Honda to start winning races. "Teams don't revolve around a single person.
"Underneath Geoff are a whole team of engineers, not only in the UK but in Japan. Nakamoto has been based in the UK for six years, he's not new to us, so if it takes three years, then we really are in trouble!
"Things were in place this year. We've got some major changes of the car from France onwards. None of that is going to be changed, and this year's plan will continue as planned."
only posted this due to the comments in bold
pmsl.
Jenson Button should not shoulder any of the blame for Honda Racing's current difficulties in the sport, claims his close friend David Coulthard.
Despite Coulthard compounding Button's troubled season by snatching eighth place from him in the closing stages of the Canadian Grand Prix, the Red Bull Racing driver believes that his rival should not be criticised for what is going on at his team moment.
"Jenson is going through a tough time," said Coulthard. "His car just did not seem good. I'd say Jenson is still solid, doing a good job.But you can only pee with the cock you have got.
"Honda are having troubled times. In many ways, I think the team were promising before they had delivered anything but podiums. I am not belittling podiums, but I just know how difficult it is when you are winning to continue winning.
"The team put too much expectation on themselves and the drivers, when they had not even won one race."
Coulthard's comments come on the back of claims from some of Honda's rivals that the recent staffing reshuffle at the team could leave them up to three years away from challenging at the front of the grid.
Honda boss Nick Fry has made it clear, however, that he does not believe it will take long for the impact of the recent changes to be felt. This comes despite technical director Geoff Willis having left the team after Shuhei Nakamoto was promoted to senior technical director.
"I wouldn't necessarily agree with that one," said Fry about suggestions it would take three years for Honda to start winning races. "Teams don't revolve around a single person.
"Underneath Geoff are a whole team of engineers, not only in the UK but in Japan. Nakamoto has been based in the UK for six years, he's not new to us, so if it takes three years, then we really are in trouble!
"Things were in place this year. We've got some major changes of the car from France onwards. None of that is going to be changed, and this year's plan will continue as planned."
only posted this due to the comments in bold
pmsl.
I know DC aka (crazy dave) has his detractors but I actually think he is about the most exciting driver of the current bunch. now free from the Mclaren media control he tends to speak his mind, and actually tried to overtake the car in front, somthing thats a bit rare....
he is also younger than me and admits to having to dye his hair top man
he is also younger than me and admits to having to dye his hair top man
Graham said:
he ... admits to having to dye his hair top man
Are you serious? He has to dye his hair. I suppose that some nasty Austrian thugs hold him down whilst Mateschitz paints the coloured goo onto his head.
What would Coulthard do if, like many men his age, he were bald on top - wear an Eddie Jordan-style rug?
flemke said:
Graham said:
he ... admits to having to dye his hair top man
Are you serious? He has to dye his hair. I suppose that some nasty Austrian thugs hold him down whilst Mateschitz paints the coloured goo onto his head.
are you serious? I read it as "having to dye his hair because he's getting old and grey" rather than "having to dye his hair because his team makes him".
Apologies if there's some subtlety to this that I've missed.
Brilliant. Coulthard was running a fair bit faster than Schumacher who was in first at the time. DC lined up a pass at the hairpin and got alongside MS. In exiting the corner, DC felt that MS purposefully pushed him wide and gave him the bird.
DC eventually passed MS and won the race. The Ferrari let go about 10 laps before the end.
Even better was the 2005(?) Monaco GP where (I think) FizzyKeller and Schumacher JR had a coming together on the exit of the tunnel and the onboard camera in the Renault broadcast Fizzy giving Ralf the bird as he skidded into the tyres at about 100mph with a couple of wheels missing.
DC eventually passed MS and won the race. The Ferrari let go about 10 laps before the end.
Even better was the 2005(?) Monaco GP where (I think) FizzyKeller and Schumacher JR had a coming together on the exit of the tunnel and the onboard camera in the Renault broadcast Fizzy giving Ralf the bird as he skidded into the tyres at about 100mph with a couple of wheels missing.
jamieboy said:
flemke said:
Graham said:
he ... admits to having to dye his hair top man
Are you serious? He has to dye his hair. I suppose that some nasty Austrian thugs hold him down whilst Mateschitz paints the coloured goo onto his head.
are you serious? I read it as "having to dye his hair because he's getting old and grey" rather than "having to dye his hair because his team makes him".
Apologies if there's some subtlety to this that I've missed.
Rather, I was trying to be facetious about the word "having", as if it meant that DC believed that he had no choice but to colour his hair in order to feel younger or attract girls or maintain his racing driver image or because of whatever sort of insecurity motivates a talented, handsome, intelligent, immensely successful and lucky man to do that.
He is quoted differently on the ITV website:
"Jenson is going through a tough time," Coulthard said.
“He is still solid, doing a good job. But you can only do the best with what you have got, and his car did not seem good [in Montreal].”
ITV said:
"Jenson is going through a tough time," Coulthard said.
“He is still solid, doing a good job. But you can only do the best with what you have got, and his car did not seem good [in Montreal].”
Edited by SamHH on Tuesday 27th June 16:04
flemke said:
I was trying to be facetious about the word "having", as if it meant that DC believed that he had no choice but to colour his hair in order to feel younger or attract girls or maintain his racing driver image or because of whatever sort of insecurity motivates a talented, handsome, intelligent, immensely successful and lucky man to do that.
in my case the "having to " word is real !!!! the wifey gives me grief otherwise, although the "look its father christmas" quip over my two days of beard growth at the weekend was a bit cutting.... The bits of beard that used to go ginger (It was bad enough having ginger bits) started to go white at about 29 
At the tender age of 37 1/2 my beard grows white....
Graham said:
flemke said:
I was trying to be facetious about the word "having", as if it meant that DC believed that he had no choice but to colour his hair in order to feel younger or attract girls or maintain his racing driver image or because of whatever sort of insecurity motivates a talented, handsome, intelligent, immensely successful and lucky man to do that.
in my case the "having to " word is real !!!! the wifey gives me grief otherwise, although the "look its father christmas" quip over my two days of beard growth at the weekend was a bit cutting.... The bits of beard that used to go ginger (It was bad enough having ginger bits) started to go white at about 29 At the tender age of 37 1/2 my beard grows white....
And are you allowed to take the piss out of her appearance?
No, thought not 
flemke said:
...maintain his racing driver image or because of whatever sort of insecurity motivates a talented, handsome, intelligent, immensely successful and lucky man to do that.
So that's what it takes to be a racing driver ... let me see how I might measure up ...
talented ... how about "keen"?
handsome ... errr - my mum thinks so (OK, actually see said I was cute, a long time ago)
intelligent ... am starting to struggle now - "keen" (again)?
immensely successful ... aged 12, school badminton tournament giant killers medal?
lucky ... Yes, finally ... I've been lucky ... several times!!
1 out of 5 any good? Maybe just as well, I don't know Ron's phone number anyway
Edited by Joe911 on Tuesday 27th June 22:08
Joe911 said:
flemke said:
...maintain his racing driver image or because of whatever sort of insecurity motivates a talented, handsome, intelligent, immensely successful and lucky man to do that.
So that's what it takes to be a racing driver ... let me see how I might measure up ...
talented ... how about "keen"?
handsome ... errr - my mum thinks so (OK, actually see said I was cute, a long time ago)
intelligent ... am starting to struggle now - "keen" (again)?
immensely successful ... aged 12, school badminton tournament giant killers medal?
lucky ... Yes, finally ... I've been lucky ... several times!!
1 out of 5 any good? Maybe just as well, I don't know Ron's phone number anyway
Edited by Joe911 on Tuesday 27th June 22:08
by lucky I think flemke meant the "walk away from a plane crash" sort of luck.
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