I've killed my AO 48's after 3000 miles!
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I popped into Westover service this weekend to discuss the infernal "jubilee clip on the intercooler issue" which all of Westover's S's suffer from but which Lotus continue to refuse to accept exists. Note: The problem has got worse as the underside of the plastic intercooler ducting is now completely crushed and deformed inwards on both mine and the demo car!
Anyway I digress, I thought I'd get the rears checked. They are down to between 1.4mm and 1.6mm after approx 3000 miles !!!!!!!! New rears on order this week!
I was amazed but Andy said that was nothing compared to Speedyellow who consumes 3 sets of rears every 5K miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway I digress, I thought I'd get the rears checked. They are down to between 1.4mm and 1.6mm after approx 3000 miles !!!!!!!! New rears on order this week!
I was amazed but Andy said that was nothing compared to Speedyellow who consumes 3 sets of rears every 5K miles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah you've still got some going to kill the tyres as fast as me... but sounds like you are getting there... and on road... mad man.... lol
I spoke to Chris after he mentioned about the intercooler piping on their demo, on the 240R there are so very nice stainless bands with proper clips, I'll take some pictures later, they've never come loose... but I guess they are a lot more expensive than just a big jubilee clip...
I spoke to Chris after he mentioned about the intercooler piping on their demo, on the 240R there are so very nice stainless bands with proper clips, I'll take some pictures later, they've never come loose... but I guess they are a lot more expensive than just a big jubilee clip...
Lotus rang me up to tell me they had a problem with the jubilee clip on the S. I said yes I already know as mine has come undone also. He didnt have a solution yet but surely they will come up with something soon or I'm gonna get the nail gun and chainsaw out lol.
Joe what service did you just have? I had a 1st service at 1000miles then went to nurburgring and have done 3000miles now should I be changing my oil?
My tyres are only just under half used *note to self - must drive faster*
lol well done.
Joe what service did you just have? I had a 1st service at 1000miles then went to nurburgring and have done 3000miles now should I be changing my oil?
My tyres are only just under half used *note to self - must drive faster*
lol well done.
You don't have to, but I always change both oil and brake fluid after every 12ish hours on track and get the suspension checked over (rear toe links etc) after bashing kerbs...
That way you know the car is ready anytime for another track session whenever the opportunity rears it's head!
That way you know the car is ready anytime for another track session whenever the opportunity rears it's head!
My first set of A048 lasted 2500 miles (which means 3 or 4 track days and the journeys to reach them)
I now check the pressure very often to at least wear them evently
I was expecting that with the traction control they will last more...
Someone told 2 pair of rear for one pair of front.... My next bill will be something...
I now check the pressure very often to at least wear them evently
I was expecting that with the traction control they will last more...
Someone told 2 pair of rear for one pair of front.... My next bill will be something...
speedyellow said:
As I'm using my 240 for everyday transport at the moment and yet another set is almost due... at 6000 miles now... I'm going to give the 888's a go.... will let you all know how they compare both on road and track!
That's interesting. I would be very keen to hear what you think of them.
speedyellow said:
Yeah you've still got some going to kill the tyres as fast as me... but sounds like you are getting there... and on road... mad man.... lol
I spoke to Chris after he mentioned about the intercooler piping on their demo, on the 240R there are so very nice stainless bands with proper clips, I'll take some pictures later, they've never come loose... but I guess they are a lot more expensive than just a big jubilee clip...
I spoke to Chris after he mentioned about the intercooler piping on their demo, on the 240R there are so very nice stainless bands with proper clips, I'll take some pictures later, they've never come loose... but I guess they are a lot more expensive than just a big jubilee clip...
Talking to Andy I think this will be the way forward. He is trying to see if he can get hold of the 240R system. Some pic's would be good. Is the lower section of plastic ducting between the rubber and the intercooler different as well? As I say it is completely crushed on mine and the demo car.
speedyellow said:
As I'm using my 240 for everyday transport at the moment and yet another set is almost due... at 6000 miles now... I'm going to give the 888's a go.... will let you all know how they compare both on road and track!
I'd be interested in some R888's for my sport 160 when my existing tires give up. Fancy the 48's but at the cost, they are just a bit too much. Let us know what they are like.
Oly.
jez_s said:
Yep that jubilee clip came off my intake as well! Do dealers feed these issues back to Lotus HQ or shall i just leave the clip in the boot till service time?
They do! After the 8th time of mine coming off I have now given up on putting it back!
It has been reported to Lotus but they say that Westover are the only dealer to have reported it and officially there is no such problem. If enough people get their dealears to submit a report it will be fixed!!!! Come on everybody!!!!!!!!
I have the R888's on my OZ wheels and I have to say they are superb. On a wet Brands Indy yesterday I was (prior to instruction) driving like a total wussy... new car, loads of power, semi-slicks, lack of confidence all contributed to pretty slow progress. With some instruction I gained confidence and was astounded by how much grip they actually do have in the wet. In the dry they are going to be extraordinary.
I'm due a new set of rears within a month or so I reckon, am probably going to do Brands in July again and that'll finish them, then I'll replace and get another set of rears as the fronts are fine. For winter I'm planning on getting Advans ('39's?) as I think they'll be more suitable.
I'd be interested in some R888's for my sport 160 when my existing tires give up. Fancy the 48's but at the cost, they are just a bit too much. Let us know what they are like.
Oly.
Oly, if you're going to go this route don't forget you'll need to upgrade your rear toe-links to solid ones. Frankly, if you're not going to track it I'd just stick with good road tyres, upgrade to Advan Neova's from the Proxes, they are much better.
I'm due a new set of rears within a month or so I reckon, am probably going to do Brands in July again and that'll finish them, then I'll replace and get another set of rears as the fronts are fine. For winter I'm planning on getting Advans ('39's?) as I think they'll be more suitable.
piooly said:
speedyellow said:
As I'm using my 240 for everyday transport at the moment and yet another set is almost due... at 6000 miles now... I'm going to give the 888's a go.... will let you all know how they compare both on road and track!
I'd be interested in some R888's for my sport 160 when my existing tires give up. Fancy the 48's but at the cost, they are just a bit too much. Let us know what they are like.
Oly.
Oly, if you're going to go this route don't forget you'll need to upgrade your rear toe-links to solid ones. Frankly, if you're not going to track it I'd just stick with good road tyres, upgrade to Advan Neova's from the Proxes, they are much better.
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