dvla - logbooks -useless
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guru_1071

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2,768 posts

264 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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the dvla sent a logbook to my parents address, addressed to some women, for a car we didnt own.

rang them up and complained. 'oh just throw it away' we where told, my brother went to the local vosa office to see what to do. they recommended we send it back, so we did.

a month later....

....duplicat logbook for the same car, same owner turns up! wtf?

ive suggested sending it off as scrapped, but this does seem a bit nasty, but no doubt as the car is registerd to our addreess, we will be getting scamera tickets and what not if the genuine owner is up to something.

any ideas, as the dvla are about as much use as a fog bagging machine???

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

333 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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I despair at the state of administration in this country.

kenp

654 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Put it on ebay!

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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No no - its all ok; they have a database now, you know...

wolf1

3,100 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Put a different name and address on it and sent it back to DVLA. Preferably the name and address of someone you don't particulary like

alcad

268 posts

268 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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How about Tony Blair, 10 Downing Street, London ?

wolf1

3,100 posts

280 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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alcad said:
How about Tony Blair, 10 Downing Street, London ?


I like your style sir

jith

2,752 posts

245 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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guru_1071 said:
the dvla sent a logbook to my parents address, addressed to some women, for a car we didnt own.

rang them up and complained. 'oh just throw it away' we where told, my brother went to the local vosa office to see what to do. they recommended we send it back, so we did.

a month later....

....duplicat logbook for the same car, same owner turns up! wtf?

ive suggested sending it off as scrapped, but this does seem a bit nasty, but no doubt as the car is registerd to our addreess, we will be getting scamera tickets and what not if the genuine owner is up to something.

any ideas, as the dvla are about as much use as a fog bagging machine???


Send it to Mr. Andrew Matthews, Operational Manager D10,
Vehicle Customer Services, DVLA.
The guy sorted out several problems I had including a request for refund duty going back almost a year and a problem I also had with a scamera partnership due to wrong address.
He was first class and dealt with it inside a week.

cptsideways

13,886 posts

282 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Report it as stolen, cloned in use for crime, get it flagged on the PNC ASAP

Seriously this will be used for crime purposes I gaurantee it!, you do not want to hear a knock on the door at 4am followed by 120 armed copper stampeding up the door after it's been used for some armed raid somewhere.



Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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guru_1071 said:
the dvla sent a logbook to my parents address, addressed to some women, for a car we didnt own. rang them up and complained.
Why would you want to complain? it's not as if it can even be claimed to be a useless administrative error, it may well be of course, but more likely they are only processing what (incorrect) information has been given to them. My 1st thought would be to give them a bell and inform them of the error, or send it back as 'not known' (although that would cost me a stamp) rather than want to complain.


guru_1071 said:
'oh just throw it away' we where told
Sound advice really, as long as they update the vehicle record and put a flag on it to say 'not known' at the address on record.

guru_1071 said:
my brother went to the local vosa office to see what to do. they recommended we send it back, so we did.
Sounds like a lot of effort on your part for something that you could have just binned, if you send it to them, all they will do is bin it.

guru_1071 said:
a month later....

....duplicat logbook for the same car, same owner turns up! wtf?
Aha, at last, the 1st bit of genuine incompetance worthy of a bit of a moan.

jith said:
Send it to Mr. Andrew Matthews, Operational Manager D10,
Vehicle Customer Services, DVLA.
The guy sorted out several problems I had including a request for refund duty going back almost a year and a problem I also had with a scamera partnership due to wrong address.
He was first class and dealt with it inside a week.
Far too sensible a suggestion, not what we come to expect of PH.

I would have given them a call, and binned it. When the 2nd one arrived, I would have given them another call, complained with reference to my 1st call, and then binned it. Would have forgotten the whole thing more or less immediately.

Been dealing with the DVLA for decades, literally hundreds of different transactions a year in the motor trade, the odd screw up is the exception rather than the rule.

Edited by Balmoral Green on Thursday 6th July 15:55

Deltafox

3,839 posts

262 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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pdV6 said:
No no - its all ok; they have a database now, you know...


Yeah their computer knows "everything", you cant escape it.....

.......it knows f@ck all.

winnebago nut

168 posts

288 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Deltafox said:
pdV6 said:
No no - its all ok; they have a database now, you know...


Yeah their computer knows "everything", you cant escape it.....

.......it knows f@ck all.


Thats so unfair Deltafox, It does know something. How to screw up . Atb Derek.

J500ANT

3,103 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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We had similar and took it to the local police station. They kept it and gave a crime ref no, or whatever this weeks name for it is. Then when the parking tickets arrived, they were sent back with the CRN. Nothing more since.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,038 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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As already said, may be more suspicious than an admin error.

guru_1071

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

264 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Balmoral Green said:
guru_1071 said:
the dvla sent a logbook to my parents address, addressed to some women, for a car we didnt own. rang them up and complained.
Why would you want to complain? it's not as if it can even be claimed to be a useless administrative error, it may well be of course, but more likely they are only processing what (incorrect) information has been given to them. My 1st thought would be to give them a bell and inform them of the error, or send it back as 'not known' (although that would cost me a stamp) rather than want to complain.


guru_1071 said:
'oh just throw it away' we where told
Sound advice really, as long as they update the vehicle record and put a flag on it to say 'not known' at the address on record.

guru_1071 said:
my brother went to the local vosa office to see what to do. they recommended we send it back, so we did.
Sounds like a lot of effort on your part for something that you could have just binned, if you send it to them, all they will do is bin it.

guru_1071 said:
a month later....

....duplicat logbook for the same car, same owner turns up! wtf?
Aha, at last, the 1st bit of genuine incompetance worthy of a bit of a moan.

jith said:
Send it to Mr. Andrew Matthews, Operational Manager D10,
Vehicle Customer Services, DVLA.
The guy sorted out several problems I had including a request for refund duty going back almost a year and a problem I also had with a scamera partnership due to wrong address.
He was first class and dealt with it inside a week.
Far too sensible a suggestion, not what we come to expect of PH.

I would have given them a call, and binned it. When the 2nd one arrived, I would have given them another call, complained with reference to my 1st call, and then binned it. Would have forgotten the whole thing more or less immediately.

Been dealing with the DVLA for decades, literally hundreds of different transactions a year in the motor trade, the odd screw up is the exception rather than the rule.

Edited by Balmoral Green on Thursday 6th July 15:55


can see your point bg.

unfortunalty my mum had her id cloaned a few years ago and it caused untold misery, embassresment (from aggressive baliffs) and a fortune in solicters fees to put right.

my sister has had hell from the dvla where by her address and number plate were put onto another car, the logbook was sent to her with a differant name and car type on it - this took ages to sort out.

my dad has had an attempted car cloan a few year ago, where somebody attempted to steal the id and the reg number of a classic car.

in this day and age the dvla ram the party line of 'your cars paper work must be correct or we will fine you', and 'our computer never sleeps' constantly down our throats. And that it is up to all of us to ensure that the paper work for our indivdual cars is 100% right or we get fined, that they are mot'd, taxed, sorned and what not. yet when they make a mistake it 'an administrative error' or 'oopps send it back and we will sort it', then they dont

my parents have lived in the same house for 20 years plus, so its not as if its a previous owners details. also i can only assume that some poor women is paying 19 quid a time for replacement logbooks???

this is why, when a logbook for a car that we dont own, of a car type we have never owned, with a womens name we dont recognise drops through the letter box for the second time in a few months we start to worry!

its for the above reasons that i asked for sensible advice, will send it back to a mathews and see what happens

cheers

GKP

15,099 posts

271 months

Thursday 6th July 2006
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Don't bother sorting it out just yet. Wait until you get a fine for not SORNing it, then start complaining....

Stubby Pete

2,488 posts

276 months

Friday 7th July 2006
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J500ANT said:
We had similar and took it to the local police station. They kept it and gave a crime ref no, or whatever this weeks name for it is. Then when the parking tickets arrived, they were sent back with the CRN. Nothing more since.


This seems sensible, at least it is well recorded that you reported it and therefore no comeback from scameras etc.

Or you could try putting the Reg no in www.rac.co.uk/web/vehiclechecks/dvla_lookup/

That will give you a guideline of the car etc, although I think that this is from DVLA so will probably match.