SEAT vs Skoda
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dickster

Original Poster:

337 posts

267 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Once again I feel I have to bring up the cost of the new vRS having just learnt the price of the new SEAT Leon FR.

This starts at £16995 and the vRS at £17495 (or something).

The FR has much more spec than the vRS too so what gives? Skoda the value arm or VAG????? Doesn't seem to be anymore.

Narvanath

293 posts

245 months

Thursday 13th July 2006
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Cut down a VW to the bones - you've got a SEAT.
Cut down an Audi to the bones - you've got a Skoda.

QED

cupramax

10,906 posts

274 months

Friday 14th July 2006
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You've got that round the wrong way, SEAT are the economy Audi (sporty) brand and Skoda are the economy VW (conservative) brand.

Jonna_Rex

1,500 posts

253 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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If you look reliability, then it´s Seat.

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Jonna_Rex said:
If you look reliability, then it´s Seat.


That's so wide of the mark it's almost funny.

Check out the TopGear / JD Power surveys for the last few years and see what the respective positions of Skoda & Seat are.

deano400

223 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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dickster said:
Once again I feel I have to bring up the cost of the new vRS having just learnt the price of the new SEAT Leon FR.

This starts at £16995 and the vRS at £17495 (or something).

The FR has much more spec than the vRS too so what gives? Skoda the value arm or VAG????? Doesn't seem to be anymore.

Just had a new vrs. Its a good car.

deano400

223 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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monkeyhanger said:
Jonna_Rex said:
If you look reliability, then it´s Seat.


That's so wide of the mark it's almost funny.

Check out the TopGear / JD Power surveys for the last few years and see what the respective positions of Skoda & Seat are.

Whats yours like on fuel geoff

skodaku

1,805 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Narvanath said:
Cut down a VW to the bones - you've got a SEAT.
Cut down an Audi to the bones - you've got a Skoda.

QED


That's pretty much the way it is. A friend of mine was talking to a motor industry analyst who reckons that the game plan within the VAG Group is to have a pecking order of Audi - Skoda - VW - SEAT or possibly SEAT - VW. Don't forget that Skoda used to be a luxury car maker. Someone once said "Skoda's are screwed together and SEAT's are glued together". Bit harsh perhaps. Looking at the new Octavia vRS prices I do think they are moving the marque upmarket. Glad I bought my Fabia vRS when I did. At the end of the day, yer pays yer money and makes yer choice.

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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deano400 said:
monkeyhanger said:
Jonna_Rex said:
If you look reliability, then it´s Seat.


That's so wide of the mark it's almost funny.

Check out the TopGear / JD Power surveys for the last few years and see what the respective positions of Skoda & Seat are.

Whats yours like on fuel geoff


Depends how i drive it

Single figures around Croft or other tracks...

Mid to high 30's on an extended motorway run at 80-85 mph, i've seen 420miles out of a tank of Optimax/VPower on a Euro run. Overall average is a shade under 30 mpg.

Edited by monkeyhanger on Wednesday 19th July 22:19

bluejj

183 posts

253 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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dickster said:
Once again I feel I have to bring up the cost of the new vRS having just learnt the price of the new SEAT Leon FR.

This starts at £16995 and the vRS at £17495 (or something).

The FR has much more spec than the vRS too so what gives? Skoda the value arm or VAG????? Doesn't seem to be anymore.


Motorpoint are advertising the Octavia 2.0 VRS at £14,300 otr am I missing summat ere!!

AndrewD

7,628 posts

306 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Just got a new vRS estate for the wife

Very impressed, prefer the handling to the Leon Cupra I had for commuting. But I guess its splitting hairs, both are great value for what they are

Jonna_Rex

1,500 posts

253 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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monkeyhanger said:
Jonna_Rex said:
If you look reliability, then it´s Seat.


That's so wide of the mark it's almost funny.

Check out the TopGear / JD Power surveys for the last few years and see what the respective positions of Skoda & Seat are.


Question is have you driven Skodas? I have, almost every day at work, from Fabias to Octavia. And I have to say they are utter rubbish. You must admit that it´s cheaply made and it shows. But yes the quality has gone up from previous production.

Edited by Jonna_Rex on Thursday 20th July 08:39

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Jonna_Rex said:


Question is have you driven Skodas? I have, almost every day at work, from Fabias to Octavia. And I have to say they are utter rubbish. You must admit that it´s cheaply made and it shows. But yes the quality has gone up from previous production.




I've owned an Octavia RS since march 03 with no problems at all.

I also know plenty of other people who have owned them without any problems. As for cheaply made, i admit nothing of the sort. They're screwed together better than a lot of their competitors cars are.

Edited by monkeyhanger on Thursday 20th July 15:34

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

270 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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According to VAG's own internal quality and warranty returns audits, Skoda is the best marque in the group. This is also backed by the JD Powers surveys too. I hadnt really considered the quality aspect too much when I got my Fabia vRS two years ago, but I am very impressed, the fit & finish is very good, solidity is better than the equivalent Polo upon which it is based.
It has performed faultlessly and I would definately have another Skoda, but I would also check out the Seat equivalents too, I wouldnt bother with VW or Audi at all as they dont do a Skoda/Seat equivalent of the really good stuff as it would upset the marketing of other VAG group products. R32 Fabia for £18k? or an RS4 4.2 Quattro Superb for £26K?, nope, I dont think they would dare

HUGE

1,138 posts

306 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Narvanath said:
Cut down a VW to the bones - you've got a SEAT.
Cut down an Audi to the bones - you've got a Skoda.

QED


yup...I wanted the Missus to get a Golf....she decided on an Altea...more kit/less money etc and its actually very good......bugger...I bought an Audi !!!

dickster

Original Poster:

337 posts

267 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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I have a 2001 Octavia vRS which has been great for the 40k I've done in just over 2 years, including a couple of Le Mans.

My main point is that this model was £15500 new with all the bits that are now optional and the new one is £17500!!! I want the new one but feel cheated!

dickster

Original Poster:

337 posts

267 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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bluejj said:
dickster said:
Once again I feel I have to bring up the cost of the new vRS having just learnt the price of the new SEAT Leon FR.

This starts at £16995 and the vRS at £17495 (or something).

The FR has much more spec than the vRS too so what gives? Skoda the value arm or VAG????? Doesn't seem to be anymore.


Motorpoint are advertising the Octavia 2.0 VRS at £14,300 otr am I missing summat ere!!


Erm....Where is this? I have been looking for months at the prices but haven't seen one for this, not the new shape anyway??

monkeyhanger

9,266 posts

264 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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dickster said:
bluejj said:
dickster said:
Once again I feel I have to bring up the cost of the new vRS having just learnt the price of the new SEAT Leon FR.

This starts at £16995 and the vRS at £17495 (or something).

The FR has much more spec than the vRS too so what gives? Skoda the value arm or VAG????? Doesn't seem to be anymore.


Motorpoint are advertising the Octavia 2.0 VRS at £14,300 otr am I missing summat ere!!


Erm....Where is this? I have been looking for months at the prices but haven't seen one for this, not the new shape anyway??


If it's anything like the Octy RS Mk1's Motorpoint were flogging it'll be non-UK spec.

Edited by monkeyhanger on Monday 24th July 17:09

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

270 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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Too expensive for an old model, too cheap for a new model, unless as has been said it is an import, it may be RHD UK spec, if so, you cant go wrong. But it may be RHD Irish republic spec, or Hong Kong spec, or whatever. Different trim and options, beware!