That Griff pops more than my Chimaera.
That Griff pops more than my Chimaera.
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DavHughes

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1,261 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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OK - not so long ago somebody posted a question that went something like "I've just bought a TVR and its pops and bangs - is this normal".

I'm quite proud of the fact that my Chimaera does pop nicely (5 litre). However, I was following a Griff (black one in Cirencester Glos) the other week and that puppy put mine to shame!

So, what's probably been done to the Griff to make it so vocal!?

Cheers.

Dav

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Since I put CCC cans on my Tuscan it pops like crazy. At low revs (under 3000 down to about 2000) its almost indecent!

IM

34,302 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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DavHughes said:
I'm quite proud of the fact that my Chimaera does pop nicely (5 litre). However, I was following a Griff (black one in Cirencester Glos) the other week and that puppy put mine to shame!

So, what's probably been done to the Griff to make it so vocal!?

Cheers.

Dav


His choices were many - Sleeved, Straight through pipes, Cherry Bombs, Cat &/or Pre-Cat removal etc or indeed a mixture of some of these.

What did you do to yours to make it Pop & Bang? Without 'alteration' Chims don't naturally Pop & Bang although they sound nice.

david beer

3,982 posts

296 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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[quote=DavHughes]OK - not so long ago somebody posted a question that went something like "I've just bought a TVR and its pops and bangs - is this normal".

I'm quite proud of the fact that my Chimaera does pop nicely (5 litre). However, I was following a Griff (black one in Cirencester Glos) the other week and that puppy put mine to shame!

So, what's probably been done to the Griff to make it so vocal!?

That was me then, i think, did you notice the reg ?
If so i have had a few bits and bobs done !

David

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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IM said:

What did you do to yours to make it Pop & Bang? Without 'alteration' Chims don't naturally Pop & Bang although they sound nice.


Disagree... they pop and bang as they run lean and the lambda gets a tad confused so excess fuel ignites in the exhaust... sleeving the exhaust makes it more obvious.

Mine pops and bangs a fair bit, but I can make it crack like a Cerb (ask Psychobert about following me a few weeks back ) when I choose too.

DavHughes

Original Poster:

1,261 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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david beer said:
[quote=DavHughes]OK - not so long ago somebody posted a question that went something like "I've just bought a TVR and its pops and bangs - is this normal".

I'm quite proud of the fact that my Chimaera does pop nicely (5 litre). However, I was following a Griff (black one in Cirencester Glos) the other week and that puppy put mine to shame!

So, what's probably been done to the Griff to make it so vocal!?

That was me then, i think, did you notice the reg ?
If so i have had a few bits and bobs done !

David


Didn't notice the Reg, but your car pic fits the bill. You were heading in the direction of the police station. Out of interest, where do you get your car serviced?

Cheers.

Dav

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I need some kind of microphone that I can tape between the rear pipes to show what Popping can be like!

Movie camera only has built in one!

IM

34,302 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Podie said:
IM said:

What did you do to yours to make it Pop & Bang? Without 'alteration' Chims don't naturally Pop & Bang although they sound nice.


Disagree... they pop and bang as they run lean and the lambda gets a tad confused so excess fuel ignites in the exhaust... sleeving the exhaust makes it more obvious...Mine pops and bangs a fair bit, but I can make it crack like a Cerb...


But yours is SLEEVED isn't it ...least thats what your PH profile says...

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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if the chip is setting the car to slightly over fuel compared to another one then the popping and banging will be more on the one that is lsightly more overfuelling - more fule to POP (burn) on the overrun.

AARONM3

418 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I've been driving a Sagaris for the past couple of days and that popped,crackled and banged a number of times almost everytime you came off the throttle once warmed up. Not sure if this adds much to the topic but when I drive my M3 I'm going to miss the sense of occassion and drama all that noise brought with it.

But back on the subject of TVR noises I just loved the whole starting procedure and the associated sounds- my favourite being the deep electrical hum once the diagnostics had done their thing. The car just seemed to bristle with energy.

Sob, I only had it for a couple of days but I became quite emotionally attached to it...

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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IM said:
Podie said:
IM said:

What did you do to yours to make it Pop & Bang? Without 'alteration' Chims don't naturally Pop & Bang although they sound nice.


Disagree... they pop and bang as they run lean and the lambda gets a tad confused so excess fuel ignites in the exhaust... sleeving the exhaust makes it more obvious...Mine pops and bangs a fair bit, but I can make it crack like a Cerb...


But yours is SLEEVED isn't it ...least thats what your PH profile says...


PRIOR to it being sleeved, it popped and banged but not as loud as it does now.

So have your back.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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AARONM3 said:
I've been driving a Sagaris for the past couple of days and that popped,crackled and banged a number of times almost everytime you came off the throttle once warmed up. Not sure if this adds much to the topic but when I drive my M3 I'm going to miss the sense of occassion and drama all that noise brought with it.

But back on the subject of TVR noises I just loved the whole starting procedure and the associated sounds- my favourite being the deep electrical hum once the diagnostics had done their thing. The car just seemed to bristle with energy.

Sob, I only had it for a couple of days but I became quite emotionally attached to it...
Er Sell the M3 - not Rocket science.

big_treacle

1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Once I'd had the baffles taken out the exhaust on my Chim it used to make some good pops with a little bit of trailing throttle on overrun. Not quite the Cerb gunshots with flames though

AARONM3

418 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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If you can turn about £8k's worth of E30 M3 into a £45k Sagaris then please let me know how!!

Rocket science would be a breeze by comparison!

big_treacle

1,727 posts

289 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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AARONM3 said:
...I'm going to miss the sense of occassion and drama all that noise brought with it....I just loved the whole starting procedure and the associated sounds...The car just seemed to bristle with energy...
I became quite emotionally attached to it...


I think that's what they're all about! When I try to explain to people why I have a sketchy Cerb rather than say, a souped up Jap rocket for example, this is it. TVR's have something else about them that can't be explained just with the low 0-60 figures!

I predict you'll be AARONTVR soon...

AARONM3

418 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I'm just about £37k short at the moment but AaronTVR does have a nice ring to it!

I just dropped the car back this morning and went off to work and I am actually going to be quite sad to go home and not see it parked outside the house.

It's funny as I get to drive quite a lot of different cars and I always appreciate and enjoy the experience but there's always a niggle/flaw/trait that makes me think that I wouldn't want to live with a particular model day-in-day-out whereas the Sagaris had the most 'niggles' (no air-con being one of the main ones!) and it's the only car I've ever wanted to keep hold of.

Other cars I've had recently include the Cayman S, Z4 M Coupe, Gallardo and F430 Spider so it's not like I'm comparing it with run-of-the-mill euroboxes.

I'd guess what the Sagaris had was real soul.

Apologies for straying from the topic a tad.

Edited by AARONM3 on Wednesday 19th July 16:41

UncleDave

7,155 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Aaron, Aaron, Aaron..

Start with a Griff/Chimaera.. then gradually work up..
Tamora next (or T350 but you'll be used to going roofless, could be a hard transition)
Then test drive a Sag again and decide if you prefer the Tam with it absent roof, if not Buy Buy Buy!
If you do prefer the Tam, you're finished in two steps!

Yes! It REALLY is that simple!

AARONM3

418 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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UncleDave, not only do you have a warm & welcoming sounding name but apparently you are full of sage-like (the non Paxo variety) advice.

I will perhaps look into what you have suggested. Girlfriend not killing me permitting.

Edited by AARONM3 on Wednesday 19th July 16:48

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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UncleDave said:
Aaron, Aaron, Aaron..

Start with a Griff/Chimaera.. then gradually work up..
Tamora next (or T350 but you'll be used to going roofless, could be a hard transition)
Then test drive a Sag again and decide if you prefer the Tam with it absent roof, if not Buy Buy Buy!
If you do prefer the Tam, you're finished in two steps!

Yes! It REALLY is that simple!


.. and all that free advice from someone too young to drive...

UncleDave

7,155 posts

260 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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AARONM3 said:
I will perhaps look into what you have suggested.


You'll never look back, though.