Stupid clutch
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targarama

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14,715 posts

305 months

Sunday 23rd July 2006
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Its been tricky getting gears recently but I thought it was something done during the engine install. Get home and there is fluid dripping out of gearbox bellhousing area (rubber thing in bottom of box). Assume its the slave cylinder.

So I'll be calling the AA and having it relyaed to the dealer this week. Its due a 6k annual service which was booked for 9th August - I'll see if the dealer can do the service sooner, plus the clutch. Luckily I have a warranty too.

(Mod edit; I've amended your title to something slightly less offensive!)

Edited by tonyhetherington on Sunday 23 July 15:28


Edited to say: No probs Mr Mod - I actually expected the swear word filter to rip that out anyway.

Edited by targarama on Sunday 23 July 16:19

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

265 months

Sunday 23rd July 2006
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I always understood that a clutch on a Tamora/T350 had a lifespan of around 20K miles. How many miles has your car done?

targarama

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Sunday 23rd July 2006
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CatherineJ said:
I always understood that a clutch on a Tamora/T350 had a lifespan of around 20K miles. How many miles has your car done?


This is the clutch cylinder, not the friction face. 13,000 miles. Clutch works fine when it's 'juiced up'.

tail slide

2,169 posts

269 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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Did you break a mirror this year?!

Sorry to hear of another problem Targa, and hearing that mine is still A-OK won't help.... hoepefully it's got all the glitches out of the way now, as TVR's often do in the first few years.

targarama

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Monday 24th July 2006
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tail slide said:
Did you break a mirror this year?!

Sorry to hear of another problem Targa, and hearing that mine is still A-OK won't help.... hoepefully it's got all the glitches out of the way now, as TVR's often do in the first few years.


I've had zero glitches until the past few months so its not teething problems. I guess the car is being a rebellious teenager. Dealer will hopefully do the slave cylinder next Mon/Tues (so I'll 'break down' and call the AA to get the car to them later this week - no point in it sitting there in the meantime, might as well sit in the garage).

Warranties are good

alt

1,879 posts

304 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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CatherineJ said:
I always understood that a clutch on a Tamora/T350 had a lifespan of around 20K miles. How many miles has your car done?

Mine was changed at 30,000 miles and that was only because the engine was out so a sensible time to be changed. I've since sold it on as there're many more miles left in it.....

nubbin

6,809 posts

300 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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This folk memory that the clutch is only good for 20000 miles is rubbish, especially for a Tamora, packing a 3.6 engine. I feel sure that the legend comes form cerbie owners, who are a bunch of heavy-footed clutch riding wallys (only joking ), and there's a lot of driver input into clutch life - mine was replaced after 4000 miles, a week after I'd bought the fecker! How anyone can screw a clutch, and overheat the flywheel in 4k is beyond me! I've current got around 19000 miles on mine, and it sure doesn't feel like it's getting to the end of it's travel. Perhaps all that heel-and-toe work is paying dividends?!

maddog-uk

2,392 posts

268 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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targarama said:
Its been tricky getting gears recently but I thought it was something done during the engine install. Get home and there is fluid dripping out of gearbox bellhousing area (rubber thing in bottom of box). Assume its the slave cylinder.




Where can I look for this? I am having a few issues in getting some gears and wonder where to check.

targarama

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Monday 24th July 2006
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maddog-uk said:
targarama said:
Its been tricky getting gears recently but I thought it was something done during the engine install. Get home and there is fluid dripping out of gearbox bellhousing area (rubber thing in bottom of box). Assume its the slave cylinder.




Where can I look for this? I am having a few issues in getting some gears and wonder where to check.


Under the centre, behind the engine. Oval black rubber grommit (a big one). Fills hole in gearbox bellhousing. In the case of my car there is fluid dripping out of this grommit (its not a high pressure seal, just plugs a hole which is left open on some cars such as my old Chimaera).

maddog-uk

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268 months

Monday 24th July 2006
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so do you need to take the console off to see it or look underneath?

targarama

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Monday 24th July 2006
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maddog-uk said:
so do you need to take the console off to see it or look underneath?


No, under the car. Lie down along the side and look under.

targarama

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Wednesday 26th July 2006
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AA just been (didn't want car getting to dealers and sitting around until they were ready to look at it so waited a few days).

Apparently the fluid dripping out is gearbox fluid. Lovely.

I guess a seal has gone, possibly the front oil seal (whatever its called) since the fluid is dripping out of the front part of the 'box, not the propshaft end.

Assume this means a gearbox rebuild?

I'll have a new car soon.

Ribol

11,889 posts

280 months

Wednesday 26th July 2006
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targarama said:
Apparently the fluid dripping out is gearbox fluid.
It seems a bit odd for oil to be leaking out of a first motion shaft seal. They normally leak slowly for ages unless the front bearing has self destructed, taking the clutch with them(contamination).

Is this what the AA chappie diagnosed or the dealer?

icraigmy

1,653 posts

245 months

Wednesday 26th July 2006
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My Tamora has done 19300 miles and I have not noticed any problems with gear changes and clutch. I don't know how the previous 2 owners drove the car, but it seems OK so far (touching wood).

targarama

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Wednesday 26th July 2006
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This gearbox is the same basic unit as the Chimaera/Grifth. I had one of those for 50k miles - no problems whatsoever with either in that car.

We'll see what the dealer verdict is tomorrow but the AA said it was gearbox fluid not clutch fluid. It was coming from that front hole under the 'box, not the propshaft end.

targarama

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Thursday 27th July 2006
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Dealer just called. Car all fine. They checked the gearbox and clutch - no leaks. They adjusted the gear linkage though.

Apparently the oil I had dripping everywhere was from the air filter. They said when it gets very hot the air filters, which are very oily can 'run'. It ran down the rear of the engine onto the bellhousing and dripped off the bottom making it look just like it was coming from the gearbox. Sounds bizarre that there was so much oil to cause that much dripping, but I trust the dealer's mechanics verdict.

Collect again Sat AM.

Weird.

nubbin

6,809 posts

300 months

Thursday 27th July 2006
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Good news

Another case of TVRitis - that mysterious disease that affects cars and owners alike - consists of odd minor symptoms, which at first seem catastophic, and herald the onset of major, possibly terminal illness, but in fact turn out to be trivial, slightly unusual problems. The reason TVRitis is so serious is that those afflicted have usually paid too much notice to other sufferers, and believe the symptoms that they had were also serious conditions, but in fact were also trivial, but compounded by paranoia.

I think PH is the WORST place to go when your TVR has a problem - it simply makes everything worse!!

targarama

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Thursday 27th July 2006
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Yeah.

Well oil dripping on the floor and coming out of the gearbox aperture, coupled with gear selection problems had me thinking the worst. AA thought the same.

I was secretly hoping to use my warranty