The Power to Stop Vehicles....?

[Gorvid]

Exactly who has the legal right to stop you on the road...?
In what circumstances....?

[insanojackson]

The police can stop a motor vehicle on a road at any time. They (I) do not need a specific reason. Though to stop somebody without a reason would be pointless and silly if you think about it?

[vonhosen]

Loads of people in a variety of circumstances.

Police , PCSOs, Traffic Wardens, HATOs, manually operated stop sign at road works, school crossing patrol, Customs & Excise, Armed forces, Coast Guard to name a few.

[thunderbelmont]

A VOSA traffic officer can stop you. He/she may check the condition of the vehicle, in relation to the VOSA MoT requirements. If they feel that you have committed any other offence after they have stopped you for the purpose of their checks, they can request a police officer back them up, but they cannot hold you if your vehicle is OK, unless that offence is an offence under common law, when they, like anyone, can perform a citizens arrest (common law offences include murder, theft, assault, wearing a burberry cap sideways, etc..)

Rob.

[supermono]

[quote=vonhosen]HATOs,[quote]
Really? Is this true?

SM

[vonhosen]

lambo cop said:

vonhosen said:

Loads of people in a variety of circumstances.

Police , PCSOs, Traffic Wardens, HATOs, manually operated stop sign at road works, school crossing patrol, Customs & Excise, Armed forces, Coast Guard to name a few.

Vonhosen you need to be more exact here on your post......PCSO's do NOT have the power to stop a motor vehicle only cycles....what they have is the power to direct traffic, eg around an accident or if traffic lights are out. Likewise with HATO's they have no power to stop unless conducting a rolling road block on the motorway to remove debris from the carriageway or as per above.

I think the post was directed at stopping a vehicle that has committed an offence etc.

The power for that is Section 163 RTA 1988.....which gives an officer in uniform the power to stop any vehicle......You do not need a reason, however as posted what is the pont of stopping something without good cause.

A suitably designated Community Support Officer (CSO), under paragraph 13 of schedule 4 to the Police Reform Act 2002, has the power to require a vehicle to stop for the purpose of a road check under section 4 of PACE. Similarly paragraph 11A gives such a CSO power to stop a person riding a cycle on a footway being an offence undersection 72of the Highways Act 1835.

A traffic warden has the power to stop a vehicle, by virtue of the Functions of Traffic Wardens Order 1970, article 3(2)(i)and amendments made to section 96 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 by section 44 of the Police Reform Act 2002.

Traffic officers have now been given the right to stop a vehicle , the power derives from section 6 of the Traffic Management Act 2004





I wasn't going to list the seperate powers each has for it (that's why I put a variety of circumstances)

Edited by vonhosen on Monday 24th July 17:01

[Vaux]

vonhosen said:

Traffic officers have now been given the right to stop a vehicle , the power derives from section 6 of the Traffic Management Act 2004

I can understand stopping via rolling road block, and stopping slow moving traffic by hand (to allow emergency service vehicles off a hard shoulder for example)

But does this power to stop include using the HATO vehicle to pull over a moving vehicle - not for an offense per se, but for a safety issue - say an LGV load is shifting or a tyre is shedding etc?

[bigandclever]

A HATO can stop a vehicle when (a) regulating traffic on a road (in England or Wales) and (b) when conducting a survey

Traffic Management Act 2004, section 6 Powers to stop or direct traffic

edited for clarity

Edited by bigandclever on Monday 24th July 22:35

[vonhosen]

Sec 163(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
A person driving a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform or a traffic officer.

[gorvid]

vonhosen said:

Sec 163(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
A person driving a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform or a traffic officer.

So not if its a skateboard then....or a horse....?

[shuvitupya]

gorvid said:

vonhosen said:

Sec 163(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
A person driving a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform or a traffic officer.

So not if its a skateboard then....or a horse....?

A skateboard is mechanical, so yes it can be stopped !

[gorvid]

shuvitupya said:

gorvid said:

vonhosen said:

Sec 163(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
A person driving a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform or a traffic officer.

So not if its a skateboard then....or a horse....?

A skateboard is mechanical, so yes it can be stopped !

I think not...

[shuvitupya]

gorvid said:

shuvitupya said:

gorvid said:

vonhosen said:

Sec 163(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
A person driving a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform or a traffic officer.

So not if its a skateboard then....or a horse....?

A skateboard is mechanical, so yes it can be stopped !

I think not...

I was thinking the wheels are doing the propelling?

[gorvid]

shuvitupya said:

I was thinking the wheels are doing the propelling?

I think gravity / the legs are the culptrits there...

[vonhosen]

Skateboard is covered under Sec 6 of Traffic Management Act 2004 as it states "vehicle" (doesn't specify motor vehicle).

6(1) This section confers the following powers on a traffic officer -

(a) a power, when the traffic officer is engaged in the regulation of traffic in a road, to direct a person driving or propelling a vehicle -

(i) to stop the vehicle, or
(ii) to make it proceed in, or keep to, a particular line of traffic;

[gorvid]

Busted by Von......fairy nuff....