Mac Mini : Wake On Lan
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The Dude

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6,546 posts

277 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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This has got me scratching my head.

I have Apple Remote Desktop installed on my MacBook, from where I admin the other computers. One of the Mac Minis I only use to watch downloaded film/TV content (connected to the TV) so I have the power-save set to put it to sleep after 15 minutes of inactivity. Also in the settings I have it set to wake on LAN activity.

When it's asleep, sending a wake command from Remote Desktop fails every time. I've trawlled both the sys prefs on the Mini and the settings in Remote Desktop but there's nothing else to fiddle with - it should just work.

My thinking is - are the WOL messages being filtered out somewhere? Is it possible to test this? Both computers are connected wirelessly via an Airport Extreme base station.

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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I'm not sure about this so take with a pinch of salt but I think you would need the Mini to be connected via an Ethernet cable to wake it via the LAN as when it's asleep it turns off the Airport radio...

The Dude

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Tuesday 25th July 2006
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robbieduncan said:
I'm not sure about this so take with a pinch of salt but I think you would need the Mini to be connected via an Ethernet cable to wake it via the LAN as when it's asleep it turns off the Airport radio...


Bugger, that sounds feasible.

What doesn't compute (sorry) though is that the scanner on Remote Desktop can display the computer and it's IP address, it just can't wake it. Perhaps that's more to do with it caching the IP addresses of previously active machines though.....



Actually, just pinged the IP address and it's down so it looks like you're right Robbie.


Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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Yep WOL functionality is over the ethernet cable as the WOL header on the mobo is linked to a sensor in the NIC (well, thats how it works with proper computers)

PJLarge

480 posts

277 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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WOL only works on the wired interface.

Is it an Intel Mini? You could always wake it with the remote.

The Dude

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Tuesday 25th July 2006
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Suppose the only way to do it would be to bridge the Mini to some wireless hardware then?

And no, it's not an Intel Mini

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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The Dude said:
Suppose the only way to do it would be to bridge the Mini to some wireless hardware then?

And no, it's not an Intel Mini


That sounds like it might work (an ethernet<->WiFi bridge). Can you send it any sort of USB signal instead? USB devices tend to wake sleeping Macs...

The Dude

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277 months

Tuesday 25th July 2006
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robbieduncan said:
The Dude said:
Suppose the only way to do it would be to bridge the Mini to some wireless hardware then?

And no, it's not an Intel Mini


That sounds like it might work (an ethernet<->WiFi bridge). Can you send it any sort of USB signal instead? USB devices tend to wake sleeping Macs...


No, unfortunately.

What's really annoying is that "wake on bluetooth" works fine (it has a bluetooth keyboard and mouse) so if it can detect bluetooth, why not wireless? Don't make no sense to me.

The Dude

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277 months

Wednesday 26th July 2006
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Found a work-around using Bluetooth.

Paired up the MacBook and the Mini, set the Mini to allow file transfer via Bluetooth. Now when I need to wake the Mini, just select Browse Device from the Bluetooth toolbar.

Voila!

HiRich

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292 months

Wednesday 26th July 2006
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Just a thought, but you might want to try AppleScript/Automator for this. Like MS Office macros, record the process, then save it as a script or mini application.
If it works (the various applications need to be script aware), you could save it in the dock, making it a 'one-click' action. You could also use it as a script within a script (to check the Mini is awake before performing some other task).

The Dude

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Wednesday 26th July 2006
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HiRich said:
Just a thought, but you might want to try AppleScript/Automator for this. Like MS Office macros, record the process, then save it as a script or mini application.
If it works (the various applications need to be script aware), you could save it in the dock, making it a 'one-click' action. You could also use it as a script within a script (to check the Mini is awake before performing some other task).


Funnily enough, I was looking at doing just that.