Cerbera to Vette anyone?
Discussion
Did it 6 months ago. Best move you could make, I reckon. No more going out the house wondering if you're coming home on the back of a low-loader.
There's nothing in it with regard to performance (mines a C5 Z06 with 405 bhp), it has more presence than the Cerb and is day-to-day practical. Only thing I miss is the sound of the Cerb on over-run.
Try a couple to see what you think of them. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
There's nothing in it with regard to performance (mines a C5 Z06 with 405 bhp), it has more presence than the Cerb and is day-to-day practical. Only thing I miss is the sound of the Cerb on over-run.
Try a couple to see what you think of them. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Had two Cerbs and no problems in four years.
Moved to a C5 in April (auto, not manual) and covered 6000 miles in the first six weeks
also without any problems.
Happy to give feedback, but best to contact me via the profile as I am in an out of the
country at the moment on various tours.
Moved to a C5 in April (auto, not manual) and covered 6000 miles in the first six weeks
also without any problems.
Happy to give feedback, but best to contact me via the profile as I am in an out of the
country at the moment on various tours.
I had a C5Z06 and they are ultra-practical although mine was a toy.
My mate has a 2003 C5 Z06 and has had it for over a year now and uses it as a daily driver with a 20 mile each way commute and a "whenever possible" philosophy. Giving it large is part of it's daily routine. Parks it on the drive, all weathers, never cleans it and I don't think he's lifted the bonnet since he had it. Servicing? That'll be an oil change then. Insurance? He's paying around £500 a year unlimited mileage.
Noise? well he ditched the titanium system and put straight through pipes on. Man, you won't hear any Cerb over that! He won the exhaust "sound-off" at the recent Cwmbran Car Show against Vipers, Chargers and so forth.
Practical supercar with hatchback running costs? Aside from tyres, yes. Although Kumhos aren't expensive either.
My mate has a 2003 C5 Z06 and has had it for over a year now and uses it as a daily driver with a 20 mile each way commute and a "whenever possible" philosophy. Giving it large is part of it's daily routine. Parks it on the drive, all weathers, never cleans it and I don't think he's lifted the bonnet since he had it. Servicing? That'll be an oil change then. Insurance? He's paying around £500 a year unlimited mileage.
Noise? well he ditched the titanium system and put straight through pipes on. Man, you won't hear any Cerb over that! He won the exhaust "sound-off" at the recent Cwmbran Car Show against Vipers, Chargers and so forth.
Practical supercar with hatchback running costs? Aside from tyres, yes. Although Kumhos aren't expensive either.
To some extent personal choice choice. Corsa and Borla are probably the 2 big selllers, another is called BB I think, which seems to be gaining in popularity and is reputed to be very load. I have the Borla Stingers and as my C5 is a daily driver I would not want anything louder and mine set off car alarms if you really rev it. But OK at 80 or so, ie about 1600 revs
LuS1fer said:
Billy Boat or Bassani are two other options. SLP tend to do straight-through pipes but to be honest, it's often cheaper and easier to get them made up by the specialist exhaust places.
Wow!! you boys have been active since I have been out in the Canaries. Loads of interesting posts and cliffy going green or something... whatever next.
Blue Flame (the company that do TVR and Ducati) made the exhaust on mine for the previous owner. Not incredibly loud, bit of resonance at gentle 1.7 - 2k revs but does have quite a nice rollback.
Adetuono said:
Only thing I miss is the sound of the Cerb on over-run.
A prepped Vette will sound great on overrun . . .
This white one sounds fine just at idle.
Vette rolling in, just after the race-Tona. At 53 secs there is another nice one, just how a Vette should be like. IMO
A Vette is a streetfighter, the Cerb is a classic GT.
I'm surprised at you Albert!!! Cerberas are streetfighters! That's why I like them. Not suggesting a Vette isn't one too but Cerbera ARE streetfighters par excellence IMO. 
You should know best Phil, but when I first saw one in the flesh last year:
I thought she looked just way too classy to be a streetfighter.
No doubt she'll kick other streetfighters ass no problem
I must say I'm pretty comfy with the idea the Cerb is actually a Gran Tourer . . . a loud one Like the Iso Grifo and such. A Vette could never ever be a GT.
My kinda Vette.
I thought she looked just way too classy to be a streetfighter.
No doubt she'll kick other streetfighters ass no problem
I must say I'm pretty comfy with the idea the Cerb is actually a Gran Tourer . . . a loud one
Like the Iso Grifo and such. A Vette could never ever be a GT. My kinda Vette.
This is dangerous territory now!
The Vette is a very good GT, designed and built to cover one of the biggest continents in the world, coast to coast and having leather seats, air con and a whole hatch full of luggage space and cubbies, hell even drinks holders. The fact that it can be transformed into a streetfighter is testament to it's multi-tasking ability. The ssupension is firm but nonetheless I can confirm it remains comfortable and without stress or pain after hundreds of non-stop miles.
I would have said that a TVR was far less a GT, being louder (stock) and less comfortable being more cramped, more a sports car which TVR designed to travel shorter distances between breakdowns (just kidding...). It may be a case of perceptions but for me the TVR will never get above a glorified kit car perception because it uses other people's lights etc. I also tend to see it as a streetfighter, a bit rough and raw in certain areas but not short of unruly power.
The Vette is a very good GT, designed and built to cover one of the biggest continents in the world, coast to coast and having leather seats, air con and a whole hatch full of luggage space and cubbies, hell even drinks holders. The fact that it can be transformed into a streetfighter is testament to it's multi-tasking ability. The ssupension is firm but nonetheless I can confirm it remains comfortable and without stress or pain after hundreds of non-stop miles.
I would have said that a TVR was far less a GT, being louder (stock) and less comfortable being more cramped, more a sports car which TVR designed to travel shorter distances between breakdowns (just kidding...). It may be a case of perceptions but for me the TVR will never get above a glorified kit car perception because it uses other people's lights etc. I also tend to see it as a streetfighter, a bit rough and raw in certain areas but not short of unruly power.
IMO a GT should have a front engine and 2 normal opening doors . . . It's the car you'd arrive with at the casino or a black tie party after a good 1000 miles hoon. With a perfectly fit bird on the hand off course. Nuff dress in the back to do that again next day . . . And to add to that, a GT is about "touring", so it has to handle the "creature comforts" side of things and not be compromised for the sake of performance.
Vette tends to dragster and Cerb tends to racer. Vette is the working class sportscar and Cerb is the gentlemans TVR . . .
It doesn't really matter: they're both great, loud and proud looking.
May I suggest this topic?
Vette tends to dragster and Cerb tends to racer. Vette is the working class sportscar and Cerb is the gentlemans TVR . . .
It doesn't really matter: they're both great, loud and proud looking. May I suggest this topic?
LuS1fer said:
This is dangerous territory now!
You're probably right. My perception (and I've done a lot of miles in C5 Vettes and driven C6s) is that they are 90% of Cerbera performance with absolutely zero concerns about reliability. HOWEVER, the ride of C5s (and C6s to a lesser degree) is inferior to TVRs (Cerberas in particular) and the handling is below par. With regard to the latter, I completely accept "you get the hang of it" after a while but peddling Vettes hard down my favourite roads is slower and even more of a sweaty palm experience than in the Cerberas. Thankfully the Vettes have a pretty good traction control system.
As for doing big miles comfortably, it's a Cerbera strong suit IMHO. I used to commute 200 miles each way last year (more often than not in a Cerbera) and have just done 3,000 miles in a week around Europe in the Boss Cerbera.
Having said all of that, if I had to pick something other than a Cerbera - ie if they didn't exist - I'd probably be driving a C5 manual!
I can see both sides of the coin on this and I perhaps cover more miles than most.
My 'standard' C5 feels more stable on the twisties than my last 'standard' Cerbera (although it had
AVOs) but it is light years ahead of my 96 Cerbera that was a law unto itself if you even hit a manhole
cover, but that was part of the fun.
Naturally 'standard' could be improved, but perhaps the improvements to 'standard' are greater on the
Cerbera as it's set to raw and aggressive.
I do agree though that as a drivers car, I could do more with the Cerb but I am hoping the
ZO6 will address that.
Over 2000 miles, I'd go with the 'vette. Vastly better fuel economy, noise 'on tap' rather than
constant and I'm not listening to every 'new' noise that appears and wondering.... but I do get an
equal buzz from both for different reasons.
Power wise, on a recent trip with 20+ TVR's, everyone was stunned how quick off the line
the C5 was and that it pretty much matched their speeds.
My 'dream garage' would contain both a Cerbera and a Corvette, but the 'Vette wins for now
for giving superior economic and peace of mind value....but I also miss the Cerbera.
Verdict? Both classic cars.
My 'standard' C5 feels more stable on the twisties than my last 'standard' Cerbera (although it had
AVOs) but it is light years ahead of my 96 Cerbera that was a law unto itself if you even hit a manhole
cover, but that was part of the fun.
Naturally 'standard' could be improved, but perhaps the improvements to 'standard' are greater on the
Cerbera as it's set to raw and aggressive.
I do agree though that as a drivers car, I could do more with the Cerb but I am hoping the
ZO6 will address that.
Over 2000 miles, I'd go with the 'vette. Vastly better fuel economy, noise 'on tap' rather than
constant and I'm not listening to every 'new' noise that appears and wondering.... but I do get an
equal buzz from both for different reasons.
Power wise, on a recent trip with 20+ TVR's, everyone was stunned how quick off the line
the C5 was and that it pretty much matched their speeds.
My 'dream garage' would contain both a Cerbera and a Corvette, but the 'Vette wins for now
for giving superior economic and peace of mind value....but I also miss the Cerbera.
Verdict? Both classic cars.
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