considering cayenne-advice?

[The Saint 911]

hi all, looking into a getting a Cayenne, please advise which one is the best value for money to go for ie- 3.2 v6? v8?,,any major diffs apart from wheel base size/engine.- max £35k, i dont know too much about them,

[domster]

You'll get a nice V8 'S' for that.

I wouldn't bother with a 3.2 even though they're not as slow as people make out. They tend to be poverty spec examples bought by people for the wrong reasons (entry level Chelsea tractor). They don't come with the standard gizmos of the pricier ones either.

It's a great car but the definition of social terrorism these days, being so big and thirsty. It is also the most motherfeckingly ugly car that Porsche has made, unless you get the tequipment bodykit for another 3k.

Clever piece of kit, competent on road and off. Only driven S and 3.2. Turbo meant to be a real riot but no experience of it myself (they chip to 500bhp easily).

[rob05]

They are as slow as people say and they dont sell,my mates had his for sale on auto trader for a year.
They are an ugly mother but you do get a lot of car for the money and as dom says the V8 is the one to have

[paracetamol]

The Saint 911 said:

hi all, looking into a getting a Cayenne,

WHY?????????????????????????

The only reason for getting into a Cayenne is to set fire to it

[kayc]

V8 is the one to have definately..see if you can hire a Shell petrol tanker to follow you around however,the Cayenne is a very thirsty beast.

[The Saint 911]

much appreciated, made me laugh,,,, i hated the cayenne at first but now its grown on me..and the other half wants a better 4x4, as i like the 911 so much i thought i d check them out..although looking,,,they dont seem to hold their value too well,,considering what you can buy an 2003/04 s+v8 for....

[loach]

Ugly as sin, drink fuel with the sort of appetite that makes pigs look like discerning and picky eaters, and feel as though they are put together by people that travel from country to country in the back of long-haul drivers' trucks. They go fairly well on the black stuff - for an offroader at any rate - though plonking a V8 into a 2 and a half ton bus, and sticking a sports car badge on it does not a sports car make. It's like taking the fat bird that works in the local chipper, pouring her into a pair of lycra shorts and giving her a new pair of NIKE trainers. The Porsche 4x4 it may be, but you still won't see which way a decent sports estate car went. I wouldn't bother with one unless you find a second hand one at a price too good to refuse. Personally, I'd take one for about 5k or so, but you might want a bit more.


Edit - I've driven the V6, V8 S and V8 Turbo. If you have to have one of these things, then the V8 S is the pig with the best lipstick. Jokes aside, the Turbo is just ridiculously expensive to run.

Edited by loach on Wednesday 2nd August 16:54

[andy97]

Buy a used VW Tourag V10 Tdi and spend the difference on something interesting.

[nbetts]

loach said:

Ugly as sin

I disagree - OK not the prettiest car on the planet but with the Porsche Techquipment Bodykit I think the car looks pretty good.

loach said:

drink fuel with the sort of appetite that makes pigs look like discerning and picky eaters

Hmmm - Over 20k miles my friend has averaged 18mpg in his Cayenne S

loach said:

feel as though they are put together by people that travel from country to country in the back of long-haul drivers' trucks

You sure you were driving a Cayenne??? They seem pretty well screwed together to me

loach said:

They go fairly well on the black stuff

They go Very Well on the Black stuff actually, let alone having an excellent off-road ability as well.

Look - The thing is some people find the car offensively ugly - Fine. That is a good reason to not buy any car. My Friend is delighted with his Cayenne S - it has a few nice options like Air-Suspension... apparently this is regarded as being a must have option. Normally sprung cars seem to wear there tyres out at an alarming rate.

I am not so keen personally on the Cayenne (V6) as it feels like it could do with a bit more power - this largely depends on what you are used to of course.

[The Saint 911]

again, thankyou,,i like the toureg!!,,,I think coming from a porsche Forum this is honest stuff...and yes down to personal opinion. I feel a bit of a hypocrite as when they came out i was saying same,,sports car badge on a 4x4,? wrong!!...,mind u i was a TVR driver then and even with them they were making a prototype tvr bike, but thats another story. Joking aside these Cayenne depreciate like anything which worries me..yes most cars do..i ll think again,,unless theres a cheapy,,,{relatively speaking}

[clorenzen]

I drive a Range Rover so take my view as biased, but I think you should seriously consider a Tuareg instead of the Cayenne. They are prettier,they are considerably better value and they come with two very good diesel engines that suit this kind of car. I drove the small TDI for 2 weeks and I was pretty impressed. I did not have the smoth ride of the RR, neither the interior quality but the diesel engine was superb for that kind of carIt also came with the air suspension which is a great feature. I have driven the Cayenne Turbo over a longer period as well, and as a drivers car it is fine (for a 4x4) but it drinks petrol and you very soon tire of the whole experience. The social stigma surrounding these monsters is getting bigger (especially around London) so bear that in mind when you choose one and especially if you want to sell it at a later stage. Big 4x4 are going out of fashion very quickly these days.

[DanH]

Think I'd be scared to drive around in one. You have the ultimate combination for engendering hatred in those with chips on their shoulders, it's a Porsche & it's a 4x4. How long before some nutter runs up and starts kicking your door in at the traffic lights? My sister in law has had that in a land rover, never mind these temples to environmental neglect!

[kiko]

I personally love Cayenne to bits, I'd love to trade my wife's Grang Cherokee for a Cayenne but the mileage on these cars is clearly anachronic with today's fuel prices... I've even considered buying one and convert it to GPL (60% cheaper than petro here).

The air suspension is a MUST for the simple reason that a Cayenne without it feels as unconfortable as my 996 Turbo now go figure. I'd definately have the V6 specially if its for your wife if was for my it would have to be the Turbo) V6's burn ALOT less fuel than the V8's.

A good option (although nowhere near as nice) is the Touareg, go for the W10 and leave the R5 alone since seem to have alot of mechanical problems.

Edited by kiko on Wednesday 2nd August 23:46

[paracetamol]

I am convinced that they only people the Porsche marketeers designed this car for were WAGs, carousel fraudsters and rap stars...why does your wife NEED a 4x4 would an A6 avant quatrro not fulfil the same need?

[murray]

I've got a Cayenne S and think it's a fantastic car. Good to actually have a Porsche I can use on a daily basis. Only real downside is heavy fuel consumption and the attitude of some pricks on the road.

Jim

[kiko]

murray said:

I've got a Cayenne S and think it's a fantastic car. Good to actually have a Porsche I can use on a daily basis. Only real downside is heavy fuel consumption and the attitude of some pricks on the road.

Jim

X2

Glad we don't have much of those W"#$ers over here...yet as I'd have to take a paracetamol to handle those pricks.

[Adam B]

andy97 said:

Buy a used VW Tourag V10 Tdi and spend the difference on something interesting.

agreed, better engine, quite good-looking compared to ugly-as-sin Cayenne, better residuals, better value

[paracetamol]

murray said:

I've got a Cayenne S and think it's a fantastic car. Good to actually have a Porsche I can use on a daily basis. Only real downside is heavy fuel consumption and the attitude of some pricks on the road.

Jim

....and making the world a much warmer place

[cinque]

Cayenne S here.

No probs re: reliability.

Few minor recalls (not all on mine) electric seats/airbag lead too short, halogen lights demist adj, tailgate window lock replaced. All to be expected on a copmpletely new model, PCentre picked up mine and left me with a V6 while this was done.

TBH the V6 is a little 'coarser' on the ears, and not as 'thrusting in the back' as the V8 S, but its still quite a capable machine.

The toys i would look for would include the air-suspension (def.) 3 way adj shocks incl. Sat-Nav (def.), all leather (incl. the dash area) as a maybe and the aluminium pack with all the trimmings (roof rails etc).

Im more than pleased with mine. I previously had a RRover HSE which TBF was a heap (see previous postings, plus also a precis on why i chose an S over a new RRover/Toureg/Lexus etc).

In comfort mode it wallows ever so slightly to give a softer more forgiving drive, in Sports it tightens everthing up even for a 2.5 ton car, that can be chucked about somewhat (just dont expect your boots to last that long if you do it all the time!). I get between 17 (if im really hooning about/urban stop start) up to 26 on long mway runs (70 mph ish)


Its really gives me the best of both worlds. Something to cart the family + dog around in and also something that can 'entertain' when im out on my own. Especially good when you only want/need 1 vehicle.

A sports estate would prob. be a viable alternative and i did look at a few, but getting bin-lids in and out of the car all the time is bad on the back, the storage in the RS4 (which i considered) was poor in the extreme & over crappy suburban pot-holes and sh*tty back roads the Cayenne rides far more comfortably than any uber-estate that i know.


And in response to the "i dont know why people buy Cayennes/they only provoke envy/violence/only owned by WAGS/people with more money than sense" brigade..........well, opinions are like bottoms........................................

[The Saint 911]

thanks again all....Audi RS avant, UMMMM...now you ve got me thinking,,,we were looking at 4x4 as its what weve always had and HERSELF FREELY ADMITS,,, has a tendency for hitting other cars or walls..so with 2 dogs and kids,,it seems the best option,,