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robdickinson

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31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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www.nikon.com.my/pagearticle.php?pageid=91

The D70 and D200 had a baby..

10.2mp, 3fps , 2.5inch lcd, in camera image editing !!!!!(D-lighting, red-eye, image overlay, trim!!!), 3D Color Matrix Metering II buzzworditus, 11 area af, and oooh ISO 100!!

robdickinson

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31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Imperialism2024

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286 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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So, they still haven't increased the burst rate to more than 3fps. And they don't mention 1/500 flash sync speed, so I'm assuming that it's 1/250 flash sync. They switched to SD when the norm for anything but a D50 is CF. And there still isn't mirror lock-up. But there are lots of stupid little creative tools.

Congratulations, Nikon mated with Casio...

Edited to add: maybe I'll switch over to Canon.

Edited by Imperialism2024 on Wednesday 9th August 03:19

robdickinson

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31,343 posts

284 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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No mirror lockup..??? wow sorry thought that was a must have, what about sensor cleaning?

I guess with SD cards they expect the D50 -D80 upgrade path, and D70 to D200.

Imperialism2024

1,596 posts

286 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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robdickinson said:
No mirror lockup..??? wow sorry thought that was a must have, what about sensor cleaning?

I guess with SD cards they expect the D50 -D80 upgrade path, and D70 to D200.


It probably has cleaning lock-up, like the D70. But I would have thought they would have mentioned in the article if it had full mirror lock-up.

It just seems like Nikon made this camera to look good on paper (ooo lots of megapixels! and SD! and in-camera editing!) and to the uneducated masses who want something better than their Kodak C300. I'll wait for reviews, though.

I just don't understand why Nikon would dilute the D200 rather than improve the D70.

beano500

20,854 posts

305 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Well, I'm sorry Nikon, but I can't see the links, searching through your websites is getting me nowhere, and the only comments so far suggest it's a waste of space...


Don't bother coming running to us when you have got something to write home about - we won't believe you!

rhubarb

511 posts

254 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Yes I was a little underwhelmed as well, full press release here as I cannot get to the Nikon site either.

robdickson said:

I guess with SD cards they expect the D50 -D80 upgrade path, and D70 to D200.


Think you've hit the nail on the head here

sjg

7,682 posts

295 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Imperialism2024 said:
They switched to SD when the norm for anything but a D50 is CF.


Is that really an issue when a fast, multi-gigabyte SD card costs less than 5% of the body price? Flash memory prices have collapsed in the last 6 months or so, I really don't think anyone spending £800+ on a body will be that fussed. Anyone taking huge numbers of pics or using RAW seems to have one of those hard disk image storage things to dump them onto anyway.

poah

2,142 posts

258 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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dpreview have a preview of it

www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond80/


flash sync is 1/200s

Edited by poah on Wednesday 9th August 09:42

marctwo

3,666 posts

290 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Seems to have some pretty useful features too though. Like auto ISO with user adjustable maximum ISO and minimum shutter speed. Why doesn't Canon have this?

Gemm

1,833 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Imperialism2024 said:

Edited to add: maybe I'll switch over to Canon.



Very wise words. Cheers to that.

Gemm

1,833 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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marctwo said:
Seems to have some pretty useful features too though. Like auto ISO with user adjustable maximum ISO and minimum shutter speed. Why doesn't Canon have this?


I'm not sure if Auto ISO is an useful feature.... Personally I'd like to be in total control of ISO rather than the camera deciding it. And you can pre-set maximum and minimum shutter speed and aperture with Canon 1 Series.

Edited by Gemm on Wednesday 9th August 12:13

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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Gemm said:

I'm not sure if Auto ISO is an useful feature.... Personally I'd like to be in total control of ISO rather than the camera deciding it. And you can pre-set maximum and minimum shutter speed and aperture with Canon 1 Series.


That's good, what with the 1 series and the D80 being pitched at exactly the same point in the market.

You can turn off Auto-ISO in any case (first thing I did on my D200)

mr noble

6,538 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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[quote=Imperialism2024 And there still isn't mirror lock-up. [/quote]



There is actually. Not proper, but the D80 has what they call an exposure delay lock-up.

The mirror goes up , then 0.5 seconds later, the lens fires, thus doing away with the possibility of shutter induces camera shake. Thats perfect for what we need mirror lockup for. Isn't it?

Greg

I hope the D200 has this too as I may upgrade soon.


This is definatly just a new entry level cam or a step up from the D50.

Current D70 users would be silly to upgrade to the D80, better the D200.

G

Imperialism2024

1,596 posts

286 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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poah said:
dpreview have a preview of it

www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond80/


flash sync is 1/200s

Edited by poah on Wednesday 9th August 09:42




To say I'm underwhelmed is an understatement.

SGirl

7,924 posts

291 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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I wish I hadn't read about the new D80 this morning. I have an almost uncontrollable urge to go out and buy a D200 now...

Imperialism2024

1,596 posts

286 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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SGirl said:
I wish I hadn't read about the new D80 this morning. I have an almost uncontrollable urge to go out and buy a D200 now...


How about a D70s?

Gemm

1,833 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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_dobbo_ said:
Gemm said:

I'm not sure if Auto ISO is an useful feature.... Personally I'd like to be in total control of ISO rather than the camera deciding it. And you can pre-set maximum and minimum shutter speed and aperture with Canon 1 Series.


That's good, what with the 1 series and the D80 being pitched at exactly the same point in the market.


D80 - Selectable minimum shutter speed in Auto ISO mode?
Canon 1 Series - selectable minimum & maximum shutter speeds & apertures in any mode.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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SGirl said:
I wish I hadn't read about the new D80 this morning. I have an almost uncontrollable urge to go out and buy a D200 now...


Do it, you wont regret it! I was unsure for a while after I got mine whether it was worth the extra over the D70, but having used it for a few months I find the features and build quality really are a big step up.

It's a fair bit bigger, but once you get used to that the handling is much better too - with several key controls located on the body instead of in the menus it's much more intuitive.

Dynamic range seems miles better, noise is noticably less evident (but still nowhere near canon), exposure is more reliable, colour rendition is more accurate, and it has much better weather sealing.

What it lacks is the "mode" dial on the top left of the D70 - so if you use portait/landscape/sports modes a lot, you'll miss them on the D200.

656

3,636 posts

283 months

Wednesday 9th August 2006
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I looked at the D200 and tried it with my lenses. Did not like the feel of it or the pics. I will stay with the D70 for the time being

Dave

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