back wheel steering.

[adiandvic]

I have seen this mentioned a few times, I assume its locking the back wheel up and allowing the back end to drift out before applying the gas again to go around the corner in a straighter line.

Has any one done this, is it possible on the roads, and howe do you set up for it.

[stig]

I can be, but basically any way of either locking or spinning up the rear wheel to alter the steering angle achieves the desired effect.

However, unless you have many years experience off-roading, own a supermoto and are a demon on it, or you're Velantino Rossi - don't bother to even attempt it unless you like hospital food

[711]

I did the Yamaha Supermoto school a couple of months ago, and they showed us how to back the bike in by slowing the rear wheel with the clutch, gears and brake. I got the hang of it after a couple of hours, it was a lot easier than I expected.
I really wouldn't try it without some instruction and a big free space to get used to the style though. I'd also say that it's not a style that works very well for the road, not in my hands anyway. On the track you've got a predictable surface, and no HGVs coming the other way

If that's the rear wheel style you meant, I'd defo recommend the Yamaha school. I'm sure some of the others would be good as well.

[adiandvic]

Ive got no intentions of trying it, hospital food isnt on the agenda. But thought i would see if people ahd tried it.

[DennisTheMenace]

Ive done it a few times but unless you have any idea on how to counteract it , dont even think about trying it , ive been just been lucky to catch it on a few occasions . as the above post says hospital food aint nice .

[711]

The technique taught to us a the 'moto school was basically as follows:

Brake firmly towards the corner.
Kick it down one or two gears. Hold clutch in.
Get the bike leant over.
Swiftly but smoothly and progressively let the clutch out to slow but not lock the rear wheel.

More rear drift was later achieved by pre adding a small amount of rear brake whilst braking for the corner and maintaining that level of rear brake through the above clutch procedure.

Needless to say a rather good time was had by all, with lots of black streaks left on the tarmac

They taught us loads of other stuff about body weight and how to place it on the bike, the best lines to take advantage of the technique, etc, etc. Unless you're a rather good rider already, following the above method in practice is fooking tricky, so having someone around to give me top tips and encouragement made the difference for me being able to nail the technique.

[711]

Forgot to say that's the 'moto way of doing it. I've never tried powerslides, I imagine you would have to be supremely talented to be able to pull those off without coming off.

[julianb]

The major problem with steering with throttle, is that if you back off suddenly, Auntie highside is waiting for you, closely followed by Uncle Tarmac...

Not to be recommended on the road. If you want it going all directions at once, try racing a crosser on a muddy day!!!

:-)