Wireless Networking bits n bobs..
Wireless Networking bits n bobs..
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UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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Hello.. looking at wireless-ing the house now, but i've got no experience with wireless things, and little with networking other than using some crossover on a couple of home computers.

I am looking at getting a decent router for Home use, that I can connect by wire to my main desktop computer (just like my current modem), but I can also add a wireless laptop or possibly other desktops to.

Would the best way to do this be by getting a 802.11g Wireless Router, then an 802.11g card for the laptop?
Should I keep my USB modem, but just use wireless to network the computers alone?

Hope that all makes sense and my budget (looking at eBay) is about £50 for the lot. irked
Dave.

slinky

15,704 posts

279 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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Dave.. Have a quick look at this..

Link

That should do the job..

btw, if the link doesn't work, head over to www.pcworld.co.uk and have a look at the D-Link bundle for £39.99..

slinky

UncleDave

Original Poster:

7,155 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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Ta

But as far as PC World goes.. nono
Just a personal thing, sorry!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Netgear-108MB-W

I am thinking this:

But it has the 802.11b laptop card instead of the 'g' faster version.. will this make any noticable difference at all or shall I spend the extra tenner?

Thanks!
Dave.

slinky

15,704 posts

279 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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perfectly good kit at a very reasonable price..

choice is yours on that one chap..

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th August 2006
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Yikes that was quick...
Just wondered if I will notice the difference between a 'b' or 'g' PCMCIA card? confused

[Really have no idea as far as these things are concerned, although not tooo bad at installing it.. I think!]

UncleDave

Original Poster:

7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Pah! I think i'll just go for it biglaugh

thepassenger

6,962 posts

265 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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UncleDave said:
Yikes that was quick...
Just wondered if I will notice the difference between a 'b' or 'g' PCMCIA card? confused

[Really have no idea as far as these things are concerned, although not tooo bad at installing it.. I think!]


Short answer: Maybe.

Long answer: It depends on what your going to do with it and how many systems are connected.

'b' is pretty much obsolete these days and is supported more as a throw back to the earlier standard. 'g' and above (super-g / g+ / pre-N) are pretty much all that you'll find for sale in the shops and on-line; unless someone is desperatley trying to get rid of old stock

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Old stock eh?
Yeah, I've gone for the 'b' at the minute.. just due to the fact the PCMCIA card cost next to nothing hehe

Can always upgrade if there are issues later on..!

bigdods

7,175 posts

257 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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I still use B, with 2 PC's 1 laptop and an Ipaq regularly all using it at the same time it still outperforms the throughput on my 8MB Adsl. Its maybe a bit on the slow side for moving really big files between machines but then I use a memory stick .

thepassenger

6,962 posts

265 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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UncleDave said:
Can always upgrade if there are issues later on..!

Indeed. Only crevat with that is if you do ever upgrade to a faster wifi router then your going to need to upgrade all the computers at once; other wise the everyone goes at the speed of the slowest person.

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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The router is the newer technology, it's just the laptop PCMCIA cards that are... limited lets say.

Should be fine... thanks for the info thumbup I'm sure you'll see more of me here if there are any installation issues hehe.

chrisgr31

14,290 posts

285 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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I bought a Netgear earlier this week. Brought mine from DSLShop and ordered it midnight Monday ie effectivetly Tuesday, and it was delivered Wednesday!

Installed it last night, was a piece of cake to do, my laptop and my wifes desktop connect with it easily, and so simple to do. Generally you won't notice the difference in speed unless you are trying to transfer large files between PCs over the network.

Do remember that you might want to set up some form of basic security to prevent others piggy-backing on your network

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Oh yes the security thing I will be looking into.. assuming this will be in the drivers/setings for the router when it is installed.

All should run smoothly, unless you see this thread bumped

tycho

12,287 posts

303 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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For security, I'd do the following:

1. Use WPA-PSK as the algorithm and use a long passphrase
2. Hide the SSID so a quick scan won't show up your network
3. Lock the network down to only allow certain mac addresses. These should be on the PC cards and you just enter them onto the router.

Can't think of anything else. The main thing is to make yourself a harder target than most other people.

chrisgr31

14,290 posts

285 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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tycho said:
For security, I'd do the following:

1. Use WPA-PSK as the algorithm and use a long passphrase
2. Hide the SSID so a quick scan won't show up your network
3. Lock the network down to only allow certain mac addresses. These should be on the PC cards and you just enter them onto the router.

Can't think of anything else. The main thing is to make yourself a harder target than most other people.


Personally I just do the latter two, working on the assumption that there are unlikely to be anyone seriously trying to access my network. Its more likely to be a neighbour taking advantage of its presence or just trying wat they have read on the internet.

However change the default name of the network, and make the SSID name secure. On the Netgear locking down the network is easy, as when you set it up its insecure. You then log in your wireless connections to it, and they will show up on the control panel. You then move them into the trusted area, and then secure the network. No looking up of IP addresses needed!

SpencerO

524 posts

273 months

Friday 25th August 2006
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Agree with the above... I still cant believe someone in our apartment building not only has their wireless network unsecured, but also hasnt changed their default router passwords... crazy...

old64er

1,388 posts

268 months

Monday 28th August 2006
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i see you bought it dave

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Monday 28th August 2006
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yes Should be here on Tuesday!

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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banghead

What a tit!
Seems you also need a modem, the wireless router itself doesn't act as a DSL modem... I just assumed it would banghead. It's times like this I hate myself!

Back to eBay.. any recommendations? laugh
I thought possibly this would do?

UncleDave

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7,155 posts

261 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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No worries, gone for the modem from the same eBay seller..
All seems well judging by the ways he advertises it (ie with similar routers to mine)

Still can't believe I've ended up buying another modem banghead