Formula 1 2007 schedule announced

Formula 1 2007 schedule announced

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killer2005

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19,665 posts

229 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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No more European and San Marino GP's

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motor

FourWheelDrift

88,641 posts

285 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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I'd rather have Spa on the calendar than San Marino anyday. It's very early for a calendar to be announced so I would be very suprised if it's the final schedule.

I think the Turkish GP might be on shakey ground after what happened at the podium trophy giving on Sunday.

GrandPrix.com said:

The FIA says it is launching an investigation into how and why Mehmet Ali Talat was invited to present the winner's trophy at the Turkish Grand Prix. Race winner Felipe Massa received his trophy from Talat, who was introduced and captions on television "President of the Northern Turkish Republic of Cyprus".

There is no doubt that this was a deliberate piece of political theatre by the Turkish authorities. Cyprus became an independent country in 1960 but tensions between the Greek Cypriot majority and the Turkish-Cypriot minority resulted in an outbreak of violence in 1963 and the deployment of a United Nations peace-keeping force the following year. In 1974 a Greek-sponsored attempt to seize control of the island resulted in Turkish troops invading the north. Greek Cypriots control the only internationally-recognized government but in 1983 Rauf Denktash dcelared the north to be independent with the formation of what was called the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. This is only recognized by Turkey. The entire island entered the European Union in May 2004, although EU obligations and rights apply only to the area under control of the government while being suspended in the Turkish-controlled zone.

Not surprisingly the Cypriot government denounced the F1 display as being "an unacceptable and provocative piece of theatre".

The FIA's reaction is that political neutrality is fundamental to its role as the governing body of international motor sport and that it will accept "no compromise or violation of this neutrality".

But it remains to be seen whether the Turks will lose their race. Commercial matters in F1 are only nominally controlled by the FIA and the race is Turkey is a nice little earner for FOM, which is unlikely to be much interested in this political kerfuffle.

One has to feel a littl sorry for the Turkish sporting authorities as they cannot easily say no to their government but at the same time cannot easily say no to the FIA.

There is little question that the act was provocative. The big question is why it happened and whether the FIA has the power to punish the Turks or whether the whole business will be fudged in the interests of commercial arrangements.

SamHH

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217 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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I can't imagine that Turkey would be dropped from the calendar; surely neither Ecclestone nor whoever paid for the circuit (Turkish government?) would allow that to happen.

chris_w

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260 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
I'd rather have Spa on the calendar than San Marino anyday. It's very early for a calendar to be announced so I would be very suprised if it's the final schedule.


Agreed but it looks like we've lost a genuinely good circuit in Suzuka as well...

FourWheelDrift

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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But they could sneak Suzuka in as a 2nd Japanese (Asian GP) race after Australia and Malaysia instead of having almost a whole month before going to Bahrain. Sounds like Bernie might be trying to squeeze a deal out of Suzuka to keep a race there.

FourWheelDrift

88,641 posts

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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expect it to change

SamHH

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Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Anyone know what the lastest is on the mooted South African and Mexican GPs?

D-Angle

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243 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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Strange, last I heard they were looking to expand the calendar, not reduce it?

flemke

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238 months

Tuesday 29th August 2006
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D-Angle said:
Strange, last I heard they were looking to expand the calendar, not reduce it?
Hockenheim mgmt have made clear for the last several months that they cannot afford any longer to hold a yearly GP, and are hoping to alternate with Nurburgring. The loss of the European GP has been inevitable for some time.

As for the race at Imola, here again the attendance in recent years has been mediocre. Furthermore the facilities there are been amongst the worst on the current calendar. The loss of S.M. GP has been likely for some time.

At the same time, a number of countries (plus Spa and Suzuka) have been lobbying FOM for places on the calendar.

The betting is that Bernie will add a net of one or even two. The more races, the more money he takes in.

FourWheelDrift

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Wednesday 30th August 2006
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GP.com said:

What is going on with the F1 calendar?

In Formula 1 things should rarely be taken at face value and the flurry of reports that the San Marino Grand Prix is finished do not tell the true story. The calendar issued by the FIA yesterday is much more likely to be a nudge to the Imola authorities to hurry up and settle things rather than a confirmation that the race will not happen. The local authorities in Imola say they were surprised by the FIA issuing of the calendar but are assuming that all will be well. They have plans to completely rebuild the track and most of the money is organised. And let us not forget that Ferrari has always supported the event at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari and that is of great importance in F1 circles.

So what was yesterday's calendar all about? It bore none of the usual signs of an FIA calendar. There were no venues listed (which is unusual) and there were none of the usual notes that are traditionally added: noting such things as "provisional (subject to contract)", "subject to circuit approval" and so on. There are some races on the list which we know do not have contracts finalised. The timing, too, is odd. Normally we get the first official F1 calendar in October not at the end of August. This is not a good thing but it is something that the sport is used to.

The publication of an odd F1 calendar, ahead of time and outside the usual format, suggests that the job of putting together the dates for 2007 is not yet finished and a look at the calendar suggests that while most of the races may remain the same, there are changes yet to come.

All of this points to the fact that someone wanted a calendar to be published at a time when things are not truly settled. One can speculate that this pressure came from the new owners of the Formula One group CVC Capital Partners, who acquired the company in November last year and added Allsport Management to its acquisitions earlier this year. The cost involved in all of this is believed to have been in the region of $1.3bn and the plan was for CVC to issue a bond to recoup the investment. A commercial deal with the teams is done but there are still quibbles over the regulatory processes, which have dragged on for the last five months. CVC is currently leaving the negotiation to Bernie Ecclestone but there seems to be little he can do to get the FIA and the Grand Prix Manufacturers' Association to find a solution to their arguments. The FIA did put out a release recently saying that everything was agreed but the GPMA indicated that this was not actually the case and that further time was needed. Since then things have gone ominously quiet. Perhaps it was the summer holidays but with the return to work now in full swing, we would expect to see some more movement. CVC must be frustrated by all of this and the calendar may be reflection of that frustration.

Probably the oddest thing on the calendar remains the start of the year where there is the Australian Grand Prix out on its own, two weeks later than normal and an insane three weeks before the race in Malaysia. There is then a rushed few days in which F1 is supposed to move everything from Kuala Lumpur to Bahrain. We believe that this is purely a negotiating position because the F1 teams are going to look at this calendar and gripe that going out and back to Australia makes no sense at all because the equipment will have to stay in the region but the gap is such that the people will need to come home to Europe. This will lead them to argue for another race twinned with Australia to split the transportation costs and make better use of the people. And, of course, this is what FOM would like to see because each new race means there is more money to be earned.

There is a perfect candidate as well because Suzuka wants a place on the calendar in March or April because it has lost the Japanese GP to rival Fuji. Going to Suzuka at that time of year might not be a very good idea from a climatic point of view and one can imagine that once the teams have agreed to accept another race, there could well be a switcharound of the first four races. There is plenty of space to manoeuvre because of the illogical March 18 date which Melbourne has been given. Melbourne has no major events after the Australian Open Tennis Championships at the end of January, except if one allows for the Melbourne Queer Film Festival which runs throughout March, which attracts 20,000 people to the city. There is the annual Moomba Waterfest scheduled for March 9-12 and the Grand Prix has often shared the date with Moomba as the city tends to get more visitors to attend both events. A switch of date would also move the race away from the World Swimming Championships and the pre-season Australian Football League games which might impact on the Grand Prix audience on March 18.

We believe that the F1 season will start with a two-race sequence on March 4-11 and then a break so that teams can go back to Europe before a second two-race visit on April 1-8. Then the equipment can be shipped home in time for the traditional start of the European season at Imola on April 29. This all makes perfect sense and even allows for teams who want to ship cars out to Bahrain for pre-season warm weather testing in February to do so and then have the cars shipped on to the first race. This would be the most cost-effective thing to do and thus what the teams will be arguing for. the only real question therefore is the order of the races.

A place has been left on the calendar into which Imola will fit very neatly and indeed the GP2 teams in Turkey were circulating an unofficial calendar amongst themselves that included San Marino on the April 29 weekend.

In addition, the date of the British GP was listed as being either July 8 or July 15 and the Nurburgring was listed as being on either July 22 or 29. This indicates that, as expected, Hockenheim is gone from the F1 calendar and that the Nurburgring will now host a race in July. Putting the German and Hungary GPs back-to-back may be a little more sensible than having France and Britain together (as is currently the case), if only because of all the equipment that needs to be transported from one race to the next in a very short space of time. The logic in this is very simple. It is easier to move 250 trucks (F1, GP2, FOM, Allsport, TV companies etc) quickly from one place to another if there is no large body of water (requiring ferries) between the point of departure and the point of arrival.

There are also now questions over whether the Turkish Grand Prix will happen.