RE: Supercar maker bids for F1 team
RE: Supercar maker bids for F1 team
Wednesday 30th August 2006

Supercar maker bids for F1 team

Spyker and Midland to get it together?


Spyker at Le Mans 2006
Spyker at Le Mans 2006

Dutch supercar maker is bidding to buy the Midlands F1 team. The two companies have issued the following statement:

"In reaction to various rumours in the press, Spyker Cars N.V. and the M-Consortium headed by Michiel Mol make the following statement:

"Spyker Cars NV and the M-Consortium confirm that currently negotiations are taking place with the owner of Midland F1 with respect to a possible acquisition by Spyker of the Midland F1 team. The outcome of the negotiations is still depending on a number of conditions and circumstances.

"In the event that such acquisition would materialise, Spyker will consider a share issue to (partially) finance the transaction. M-Consortium has expressed its willingness to subscribe to this issue for a large part.

"At the appropriate time further announcements will be made. In any event the acquisition will be subject to Spyker Shareholders' and Supervisory Board approval."

Spyker has moving further towards motor racing in reecent years, including racing at Le Mans this year. That said, it's a surprising move for so small a company but shows huge ambition. It remains to be seen how Spyker manages in the F1 hothouse, as consistently good results are very hard to achieve no matter how big your budget, as the likes of Toyota, Honda and BMW have discovered.

We wish Spyker well and look forward to seeing some Spyker design touches on near-identical F1 cars...

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fwdracer

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3,565 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Be the first time spinners have been seen on F1 cars since the mid 60's... hehe

Engine turned dashboard and quilted upholstery for the carbon fibre shell seat anyone....



Edited by fwdracer on Wednesday 30th August 12:07

Podie

46,649 posts

302 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Where do Spyker get their funding..?!?

FourWheelDrift

92,134 posts

311 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Podie said:
Where do Spyker get their funding..?!?


See in my thread about this from earlier this week, last post - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=302049&f=42&h=0

dinkel

27,730 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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It's a Michiel Mol venture and an adventure. Those guys know what to do with money. It's a smart deal for Michiel Mol en Victor Muller.

To add the Spyker-name can include carmaking or carrelated stuff interesting. Holland has a lot of F1 fans, so for investors it is has a commercial potential. F1 is international though, and we have 2 drivers doing reasonable well. I dunno if the two have to be the pick for the team though . . . I'd spread it a bit

As a factory Spyker does well, they about doubled production to an estimated 100 cars for this year.

There could be another plan: Mol buying Spyker . . . An F1 team (Midlands, Albers is already in) is worth about twice as much as Spyker.

Audi and F1 scratchchin

Podie

46,649 posts

302 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
Podie said:
Where do Spyker get their funding..?!?


See in my thread about this from earlier this week, last post - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=302049&f=42&h=0


Thanks.

Dr S

5,122 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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In general the Spyker is not my cup of tea but in race trim it looks really tasty...lick

Martin Keene

11,339 posts

252 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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dinkel said:
Audi and F1 scratchchin

I'd be surprised if Audi don't appear somewhere along the line. After all they supply them engines already and Audi's biggest bugbear with F1 has been the cost. Homologated engines arriving next year, Spyker buying Midland for next year and Midland just lost Toyota engines for next year.

Coincidence, I think not...

PS: If anyone cares the other halfs name is Spijker... Do a search!


olaf

13 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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The rumour around here (Northampton) is that this is already a done deal and that the team has signed a contract with Cosworth for engines next year.

boghouse

227 posts

258 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Interestingly...Spijker in dutch means "Nail"

FestivAli

1,170 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I read once that Bernt Piechwhatsit (assuming that he is the Chairman of the Volkswagen group, apologies if I'm wrong, I often get the names confused) said that 'Audi will absolutely not be competing in F1'. I think the man who gave the go ahead to Veyron production realised black hole F1 is money wise hehe

As for Spyker, I see a manufacturer struggling on the edge of mainstream desperately looking for recognition, and F1 would probably boast they're image somewhat. This is the company that keeps showing its kit at motorshows and keeps having heaps of people go 'Who?' Peking to Paris Concept was fantastic in my opinion, though the anti-4wd set will no doubt question my taste.

If anything they want to make it to at least Pagani status, but I'm guessing they seek recognition and therefore can expand they're market size and then take advantage of my favourite business situation, my old friend economies of scale.

ALi.

tomtvr

6,909 posts

268 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I would so support a Spyker F1 team!

For some reason they seem cool!

Ram Rod

15 posts

264 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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I think this is a great idea, the cars are really cool, they always have a couple of demonstrators at the Monaco Historic Grand Prix. I've heard a rumour of how the deal first came about, allegedly a couple of the Dutch designers were in a bar, drinking a beer, having a shhmoke...................

dinkel

27,730 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Err, nope . . .

pasthim

18,942 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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dinkel said:
Err, nope . . .


Exactly! This is the last thing the Midland F1 team needs. Spyker are tiny and have NO experience at this level. This is financial suicide. If Toyota, Honda and BMW, with all their financial might, what chance Spyker? This will only serve to damage their repuation by letting the world see that they are tail-end charlies. How can this help their road cars????

Virage166

213 posts

242 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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They already make a fool of themselves once a year at Le Mans. That should be enough.

This Spyker thing is just one big retro ego trip of its chairman who clearly thinks he is David Brown in the fifties. How many cars have they build to date? How many races have they lost? How much money did the loose? It will come to nothing.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

282 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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Having become terminally bored with F1, I've lost track of the name changes...

Who is Midland, and who were they in earlier lives...?

MidnightDriver

118 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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must admit didnt see that 1 coming, who'd thought a small sports car manufacturer would buy up a f1 team? sniff petrol couldnt even make it up! ....wot next? TVR buys up red bull racing?!?!?!?!

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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pasthim said:
dinkel said:
Err, nope . . .


Exactly! This is the last thing the Midland F1 team needs. Spyker are tiny and have NO experience at this level. This is financial suicide. If Toyota, Honda and BMW, with all their financial might, what chance Spyker? This will only serve to damage their repuation by letting the world see that they are tail-end charlies. How can this help their road cars????


Since when did Alex Schnaider have any experience of F1? Did that stop him?

One thing certain in all motorsport. Somebody has to come last. And it's how they do it that matters, and whether they enjoyed themselves doing it. If you don't enjoy it, it's time to leave the party! And I believe that Mr Schnaider called for his taxi long ago.

Trackside

1,777 posts

260 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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mybrainhurts said:
Having become terminally bored with F1, I've lost track of the name changes...

Who is Midland, and who were they in earlier lives...?

Previously known as Jordan Grand Prix...

FourWheelDrift

92,134 posts

311 months

Wednesday 30th August 2006
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thunderbelmont said:

Spyker are tiny and have NO experience at this level.


But when a team is bought out they don't replace the people working there. There are people working at Midland who were there from the Jordan days and others from other teams so the experience is already there, they are just providing the financial stability which will be cheaper to do using the new regulations and onwards which are designed to allow even new teams to enter with smaller budgets.

As to why they are doing it :-

"The company sells 40% of the cars in America, 27% in Europe but only 14% in both the Middle East and in China. Thus promoting sales in these regions (the classic F1 new markets) is a key goal for the company. Spyker chairman Victor Muller says that F1 is now a much more interesting business because of the recent financial settlements and the new rules in 2008 as there will be more money available to the teams from TV rights and the teams will be able to buy cars and engines."