UK Camaro will be a right hooker according to Autoexpress
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Hmmm, I really hope it's true. but there don't appear to many firm details in that article.
"there's nothing to stop it being converted to RHD". True, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Now, if Bob Lutz had stated that he was approving RHD as "those car-junkies on that Pistonheads website really want it" then I'd be impressed
"there's nothing to stop it being converted to RHD". True, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Now, if Bob Lutz had stated that he was approving RHD as "those car-junkies on that Pistonheads website really want it" then I'd be impressed
GIVE US A RHD CAMARO LuS1fer said:
The article inside says nothing of the sort - it says there's nothing to stop it being made in RHD. Sensationalist crap.
READ THE POST!!! I said the cover states it will be a right hooker not the article.
Why do Barristers think they know it all?
Edited by Woody vt on Friday 1st September 21:26
Twin Turbo said:
He's got a point though.......it isn't exactly investigative journalism at it's best 
You're right, he does have a point and by no stretch of the imagination am I saying there will definitely be one just because Autoexpress claims so but his choice of words irritated me. All he had to do was read the post.
@ Mose. It's definitely one of those cars you either love or hate. I love it but can see why some wont.
Edited by Woody vt on Friday 1st September 21:44
Woody vt said:
LuS1fer said:
The article inside says nothing of the sort - it says there's nothing to stop it being made in RHD. Sensationalist crap.
READ THE POST!!! I said the cover states it will be a right hooker not the article.
Why do Barristers think they know it all?
Edited by Woody vt on Friday 1st September 21:26
They don't, the judges do...
Woody vt said:
Twin Turbo said:
He's got a point though.......it isn't exactly investigative journalism at it's best
You're right, he does have a point and by no stretch of the imagination am I saying there will definitely be one just because Autoexpress claims so but his choice of words irritated me. All he had to do was read the post.
@ Mose. It's definitely one of those cars you either love or hate. I love it but can see why some wont.
Edited by Woody vt on Friday 1st September 21:44
No need to be touchy. If someone had a headline saying Pistonheads was a cookery forum, it doesn't mean it is and one look would confirm that. My criticism was aimed at the ridiculousness of Auto Express, not you.
Edited by LuS1fer on Saturday 2nd September 14:15
Just to fan the flames a little.....I've just seen this posted on www.camaro5.com
"Jason Stein - Automotive News Europe - September 4, 2006 - 6:00 am
MUNICH -- Chevrolet Europe executives are studying whether to bring the Camaro sports coupe to Europe.
Last month, GM confirmed the automaker will build an all-new version of the American muscle car based on a concept unveiled at the 2006 Detroit auto show. Although the Camaro concept vehicle has not been shown yet in Europe, Chevrolet Europe is considering importing and selling it here.
“I want the car for our lineup,” Wayne Brannon, executive director of Chevrolet Europe, told Automotive News Europe. “But we want it to be a good business case. We are considering it.”
Brannon said he would like to make a decision by the first quarter of next year. He said a number of factors will be considered in the decision, including: engineering issues for Europe, emission requirements and volume.
“We would not look at it as a huge volume opportunity,” Brannon said. “But the project has to make sense.”
Chevrolet Europe says there already has been a positive reaction to the car from dealers and customers. The sales expectations probably won’t be large because American muscle cars are minor players in the European market.
Ford, for example, has sold 441 units of its Mustang through six months this year, according to UK-based market researcher JATO Dynamics. That’s down from 463 units during the same period last year, but up substantially from 2004, when Ford sold just 70 units.
Coupes are also a niche segment. In the last two years, carmakers have sold an average of 30,000 units as customers increasingly switch to the coupe-cabriolet segment. That market is now nearly 10 times the size of the coupe segment.
GM will begin production of the new Camaro at the end of 2008 in Oshawa, Canada, and the car will go on sale in the US in early 2009."
Not too sure where JATO get the figures for the number of Mustangs sold by Ford.........'cos officially that has to be a big fat zero, although I can believe there were that many registered after being imported either personally or via an importer.
Either way, I hope it's true and the Camaro becomes an offical GM Europe product
"Jason Stein - Automotive News Europe - September 4, 2006 - 6:00 am
MUNICH -- Chevrolet Europe executives are studying whether to bring the Camaro sports coupe to Europe.
Last month, GM confirmed the automaker will build an all-new version of the American muscle car based on a concept unveiled at the 2006 Detroit auto show. Although the Camaro concept vehicle has not been shown yet in Europe, Chevrolet Europe is considering importing and selling it here.
“I want the car for our lineup,” Wayne Brannon, executive director of Chevrolet Europe, told Automotive News Europe. “But we want it to be a good business case. We are considering it.”
Brannon said he would like to make a decision by the first quarter of next year. He said a number of factors will be considered in the decision, including: engineering issues for Europe, emission requirements and volume.
“We would not look at it as a huge volume opportunity,” Brannon said. “But the project has to make sense.”
Chevrolet Europe says there already has been a positive reaction to the car from dealers and customers. The sales expectations probably won’t be large because American muscle cars are minor players in the European market.
Ford, for example, has sold 441 units of its Mustang through six months this year, according to UK-based market researcher JATO Dynamics. That’s down from 463 units during the same period last year, but up substantially from 2004, when Ford sold just 70 units.
Coupes are also a niche segment. In the last two years, carmakers have sold an average of 30,000 units as customers increasingly switch to the coupe-cabriolet segment. That market is now nearly 10 times the size of the coupe segment.
GM will begin production of the new Camaro at the end of 2008 in Oshawa, Canada, and the car will go on sale in the US in early 2009."
Not too sure where JATO get the figures for the number of Mustangs sold by Ford.........'cos officially that has to be a big fat zero, although I can believe there were that many registered after being imported either personally or via an importer.
Either way, I hope it's true and the Camaro becomes an offical GM Europe product
Edited by Twin Turbo on Wednesday 6th September 20:54
It really makes no sense to have a historically important muscle car at the head of a lineup of Daewoos. Does it? You can see a link between the lesser Vauxhalls and the Monaro but where is the link between a cheapo Matiz and a Camaro. They should either reclothe it and make it a Vauxhall or, ideally, they should make it a Trans Am and launch the Pontiacs in Europe where Trans Am actually means something. Just leave the rest of the Pontiacs where they are. They could then have the Solstice to support it in the hotter 260hp guise.
Otherwise, it's like taking a Shelby GT500 and rebadging it as the flagship of the Kia range.
Otherwise, it's like taking a Shelby GT500 and rebadging it as the flagship of the Kia range.
LuS1fer.....I know what you mean, but surely the same could be said of the Corvette. The Corvette name is strong enough to succeed on it's own. The Camaro is less well known, but could do the same.
They could well rebrand the Camaro. Let's not forget the Dodge Viper was marketed as a Chrysler over here. A Vauxhall Camaro? It could work, but would spell the end of the Monaro. With the market for the car being so small, I reckon they should sell it alongside the Corvette.
If GM had any sense, they'd have left the Daewoo name as Daewoo as everyone in the UK knows that means cheap 'n (not so) chearfull cars. But that's marketing for ya
They could well rebrand the Camaro. Let's not forget the Dodge Viper was marketed as a Chrysler over here. A Vauxhall Camaro? It could work, but would spell the end of the Monaro. With the market for the car being so small, I reckon they should sell it alongside the Corvette.
If GM had any sense, they'd have left the Daewoo name as Daewoo as everyone in the UK knows that means cheap 'n (not so) chearfull cars. But that's marketing for ya
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