Handguns and Pistols for Self Defence
Handguns and Pistols for Self Defence
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halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Personally I believe I should be allowed to carry a Hand gun for my own personal protection

looking at recent news stories, its now become pretty dangerous to even go out of your house nowadays, what with Terrorist threats murdering burglars and Hijackers, Muggers and Chavs

imagine just innocently walking to work along the street and a nutter with a gun approaches you!, how on earth can you defend yourself?

on the other hand if you had a legaly obtained gun...........BANG, end of problem, you safe, he Dead

what do you think?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Nah

halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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why not?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Because if you're allowed to carry a handgun, so will all the nutters be.

thinfourth

1,189 posts

251 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Instead of buying a handgun just stop buying the daily mail

halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Sam_68 said:
Because if you're allowed to carry a handgun, so will all the nutters be.


all the nutters already own Illegal guns anyway?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
Sam_68 said:
Because if you're allowed to carry a handgun, so will all the nutters be.


all the nutters already own Illegal guns anyway?


What makes you think that ?

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
all the nutters already own Illegal guns anyway?

Eh? Are you for real? When was the last time you saw someone use a handgun in the UK?

Get a grip, man!!

fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Because the moment we are allowed to carry guns we'll end up like the US...

Hundreds of deaths every month through handguns - and not just criminals, but kids, drunken rows - imagine some of the road rage idiots on the roads if they had a gun close to hand... it'd be bloodshed...


as for preventing crimes - come on - if everyone has a gun do you think that'll make criminals more or less likely to shoot first, rob later?

deadslow

8,795 posts

253 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:

imagine just innocently walking to work along the street and a nutter with a gun approaches


yeah, that nutter would be YOU

wobble

Edited by deadslow on Monday 4th September 23:12

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:

what do you think?


I think you sound like just the person to be granted a firearms licence.

FFS

Edited by Plotloss on Monday 4th September 23:24

halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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but i would only use one in self defence, in extreme circumstances, ie life threatening and in NO other circumstances

ATG

23,816 posts

302 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Problem is that for every person who might be competent to carry a handgun, you'll get a dozen up-standing, law-abiding, plonkers handling them incompetently causing accidents. Also otherwise-completely-sane-and-decent-bloke Joe Bloggs might just happen to come home and find his wife in the sack with the postman leading to a moment of madness ... and with the aid of an easily available gun, leading to death rather than a couple of black eyes. Given that the risk of being faced with a gun in the UK is absolutely tiny, the benefit you'd get from carrying a gun for self defence is tiny too. But the risk you'd be put at if other law-abiding but incompetent people were wandering around with concealed weapons would be quite a bit larger.

An unscientific sample of 3 people in my family and their near misses with guns:

Some loon gave my uncle a 12 bore shotgun when he was 12 years old. He promptly found a piece of curtain rail that would fit down the barrel and used it to try to convert the shotgun to fire 22 rifle rounds which he pinched from school. Next time home from school with a friend, my uncle forgot about the curtain rail, and his friend fired the shotgun with the curtain rail still in the barrel ... barrel got fluted, but didn't explode thank god ... curtain rail knocked a huge junk of turf out of the lawn and friend's shoulder hurt a lot.

My mother used to teach in Colorado and the local police recommended she carry a gun. She took it out to a parking lot to practice firing it and used the side of a lorry trailer to steady her arm while aiming down the side of it ... so that's 50% of her field of view obstructed by the side of the truck. Fortunately no one stepped out from behind it ... unfortuantely the side of the truck stopped the sound from disspersing and so she blew out her right ear drum and has had wonky hearing ever since. (She later brought the gun into the UK in her handbag on a plane .. but that is another story.)

And finally my distant cousin who shot himself in the foot while deer hunting. How? By hanging a cocked rifle in a tree with the safety off ... and then trying to climb the tree ... and standing on the end of the barrel. Realising that was a bit stupid, he took his weight off the end of the gun ... which allowed a twig to pull the trigger whhich blasted a couple of his toes up past his face.

YThe thought of these eejits wandering round with guns to protect themselves scares the hell out of me.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
but i would only use one in self defence, in extreme circumstances, ie life threatening and in NO other circumstances

Ah, well. Why didn't you say so before! That's alright, then. rolleyes

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
but i would only use one in self defence, in extreme circumstances, ie life threatening and in NO other circumstances


Do you now how many people were killed with firearms in the England & Wales in 2004/5 ?

halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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bet you a £Million its more than before handguns were banned?

makes you think dont it?

Wacky Racer

41,381 posts

277 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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It is an offence to be in possession of ANY pistol or rifle in a public place WITHOUT GOOD REASON, with very heavy penalties including prison,judge so don't even think about it.nono



WR. (Registered dealer for over 30 years)

halabushi

Original Poster:

82 posts

242 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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for enforcing my common Law right to bear arms?

this is the ultimate offencive against an over oppresive Government though isnt it!
just like the present cocks?

if that right is removed we are F****d

Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
for enforcing my common Law right to bear arms?


Erm, which country do you come from, Halabushi?




















....no, on second thoughts, what planet do you come from?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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halabushi said:
bet you a £Million its more than before handguns were banned?

makes you think dont it?


2,377 legally held firearms were still stolen in 2004/5, how does that help gun crime ?