Can gas, club and manacle, but not change a flat tyre
Can gas, club and manacle, but not change a flat tyre
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streaky

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19,311 posts

279 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Letter in today's Daily Telegraph:

Sir - A police vehicle pulled into my forecourt this week with a flat tyre. It was manned by two young, fit policemen equipped with CS gas, truncheons and handcuffs.

However, because of health and safety rules, they were not allowed to change their wheel and had to call a "trained" police engineer to do the job. Health and safety over-reaction?

xxxxx, Bishop's Waltham, Hants

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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True

Police officers are not allowed to change wheels.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Just film

Fiskkeeper

151 posts

242 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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too much like hard work i guess, after all they are just penpushers now days.

martind

2,138 posts

257 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Quinny said:
No wonder they've got no money for fighting crime.

2 cops stood around waiting for someone to change a flat.

The cost of a qualifiedrolleyes tyre changer to come out and change the tyre.

Total cost?

Probably £200 quid or so.

Time for the two cops to change a tyre 15 mins max

Cost?
About £50 quid and they're back on their way.

Errr, actually police cars (Thames Valley are)are covered by the AA like any other car, so the AA could be called out to change the wheel . Time to put spare on should be more like 5 mins.

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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martind said:
Quinny said:
No wonder they've got no money for fighting crime.

2 cops stood around waiting for someone to change a flat.

The cost of a qualifiedrolleyes tyre changer to come out and change the tyre.

Total cost?

Probably £200 quid or so.

Time for the two cops to change a tyre 15 mins max

Cost?
About £50 quid and they're back on their way.

Errr, actually police cars (Thames Valley are)are covered by the AA like any other car, so the AA could be called out to change the wheel . Time to put spare on should be more like 5 mins.


Do they preferential treatment or do they wait for 2 hours like the rest of us?

busa_rush

6,930 posts

281 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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vonhosen said:
True

Police officers are not allowed to change wheels.


Madness, do you not think this is embarassing ?

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

263 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Same is true in Greater Manchester. A friend talks of a Police Vectra being sat at the end of his road for 3 hours a few months ago... cause: one flat tyre, awaiting mechanics.

His dad is a Super in the force, he confirms this is force policy!

Reason? Health and safety - 1. What if the oficers injure themselves changing the flat tyre and the wheel it is affixed to, or 2. What if the newly-fitted wheel and tyre come off and injure the police officers or a member of the public?

Edited by aw51 121565 on Friday 8th September 23:40

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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aw51 121565 said:
Reason? Health and safety - 1. What if the oficers injure themselves changing the flat tyre and the wheel it is affixed to, or 2. What if the newly-fitted wheel and tyre come off and injure the police officers or a member of the public?

Edited by aw51 121565 on Friday 8th September 23:40


Simple answer.

Want to drive a police car? Take lessons in basic maintainance. Get taught how to change a wheel. Don't pass, you can't drive the car/van.

If the wheel comes off and hurts someone, thats what insurance companies are for. If the person gets hurt while changing the wheel, tough shit you dumbass. Pay more attention.

deeps

5,432 posts

271 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
If the wheel comes off and hurts someone, thats what insurance companies are for. If the person gets hurt while changing the wheel, tough shit you dumbass. Pay more attention.

Absolutely! The way I see it, we suffer with an ever expanding health & safety/do-gooder/nanny/compensation society backed up with plentifull propaganda and ignorance, which is creating this ever expanding raft of patheticness. Imagine the monster it could become in 20 years time!!

shuvitupya

3,338 posts

247 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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I would rather the police let the AA/RAC do the job.

I pay the police through taxation to reduce/detect crime, and not pish about with cars. mad

Police injured through pishing about with cars, means less police on the beat if they are injured.

davidra

271 posts

267 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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Absolutely crazy

alphadog

2,049 posts

263 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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It's like the old union days when you needed several people to wire a plug. Eeh it were grim up north!

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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And whilst the BiB are waiting for the fitter, or the AA, or the RAC to attend, crime stops ... does it? - Streaky

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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Are those on bicycles allowed to repair a puncture, or do they have to call a fitter too? CAn they carry/push their cycles back to the station?

If they wear a hole in their regulation boots, can they take them to the cobblers themselves, or do they need a specialist and a Methods Statement to have them soled?

Streaky

WildCat

8,369 posts

273 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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streaky said:
And whilst the BiB are waiting for the fitter, or the AA, or the RAC to attend, crime stops ... does it? - Streaky


Ist nonsense .. nicht? Und just think .. all those speedy drivers passing them und not able to cop them ... rolleyes

Ist not rocket science to change a wheel. I can do it und it stay on wheel too...und ist common sense to carefully put the old one und position flat on floor so it do not roll aways from you.. rolleyes

Everyone who drive a car should have some ideas as to what go on under that bonnet und how state of tyres can affect handling in any case. Ist called responsibility, safety awareness und ultimately save more lives than this wishy washy pee-cee nonsense of dithering around flapping like chicken with chopped off head .. rolleyes

7db

6,060 posts

260 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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streaky said:
And whilst the BiB are waiting for the fitter, or the AA, or the RAC to attend, crime stops ... does it? - Streaky


The last pair I saw waiting for a mechnic were very diligently policing a pair of Big Macs and protecting the patrons of McDonalds.

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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7db said:
streaky said:
And whilst the BiB are waiting for the fitter, or the AA, or the RAC to attend, crime stops ... does it? - Streaky


The last pair I saw waiting for a mechnic were very diligently policing a pair of Big Macs and protecting the patrons of McDonalds.
Presumably from the Cuisine Protection Division of the force yikes - Streaky

silverback mike

11,293 posts

283 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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Mad but true, and if anyone is caught changing a wheel, it's a disciplinary....all to do with health and safety. If I change a wheel on the motorway and get squashed, it's my own fault...now I don't particularly see a problem with that but unfortunately the powers that be deem it to be too risky. rolleyes

silverback mike

11,293 posts

283 months

Saturday 9th September 2006
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streaky said:
Are those on bicycles allowed to repair a puncture, or do they have to call a fitter too? CAn they carry/push their cycles back to the station?

If they wear a hole in their regulation boots, can they take them to the cobblers themselves, or do they need a specialist and a Methods Statement to have them soled?

Streaky


Don't get regulation boots anymore, have to pay for them, I tend to go for my old favourite british army regulation boots, don't get blowouts in them, so dont need to call out recovery agents..hehe