Seats and harnesses.
Seats and harnesses.
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simond001

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4,519 posts

306 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Morning all, Iw ant to change the seats to buckets, something like Cobra Monaco's. Also want to install harnesses.

Any advice is welcome, as this is a first. i do want to retain the ability to change the seat position, as I won't be the only driver. Also need to keep inertia belts.

I am losing the rear seats if that makes any difference, and would be quite happy to put cross braceson the rear part of the integral roll cage.

This is just for track days, and to let clients have some fun!!

(And does anyone have a solution for towing points, the hook under the front of the car is way back, and they had trouble getting me out of the kitty litter at brands)

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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You can fit a 4 point harness to the standard belt points using long thread eye bolts, this means you can keep the inertia belts as a lot of race harnesses are NOT MOT approved.

I have standard seats and wide 4-point harness and it feels great, my suggestion would be get the belts first and see what you think.

HTH

Tim

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

313 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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TT Tim said:
You can fit a 4 point harness to the standard belt points using long thread eye bolts, this means you can keep the inertia belts as a lot of race harnesses are NOT MOT approved.


Can you give any more details on this, like the make and model of harness and the fittting method ?
My passenger would certainly appreciate it...

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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The standard seat runners just bolt to the bottom of the TVR seats, so it should be possible to swap them over to the race seats. As the others have said, just replace the seatbelt mounting bolts with ones with an 'eye' in the top - available from most motorsport places.

FUBAR

17,065 posts

267 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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PM Craig aka Nitro Cerb. He's got some fancy bucket seats in his Cerb. He must be a skinny git coz there's no way I could get in there with the big 'wings' (head supports?). I struggle as it is to squeeze in to my car.

simond001

Original Poster:

4,519 posts

306 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Simon,

If you car is local maybe i can have a look Saturday!

Cheers

Simond

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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I thought you bought an elise for trackwork and were looking to make the Cerb an auto??

I take it you've seen the light and will make the Cerb into the track monster. I'll be interested to see what happens cage wise, as the standard cerbs torsional rigidity is a bit pants, I cant believe the rear of the standard cage isnt already attached to the chassis!

simond001

Original Poster:

4,519 posts

306 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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I got bored of the Elise after the first track day. It was very clinical and nippy, but lacked the thunder of the Cerb.

(Blimey, even I had forgotten about the Elise. You can't away with much on here can you!)

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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simond001 said:
I got bored of the Elise after the first track day. It was very clinical and nippy, but lacked the thunder of the Cerb.

(Blimey, even I had forgotten about the Elise. You can't away with much on here can you!)


I have a good memory. Good luck getting the Cerb track prepared, please keep us updated!

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

281 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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simond001 said:
I got bored of the Elise after the first track day. It was very clinical and nippy, but lacked the thunder of the Cerb.

(Blimey, even I had forgotten about the Elise. You can't away with much on here can you!)


You bought a car and then forgot about it? Have you looked in the back of the garage, it might be under the workbench...

simond001

Original Poster:

4,519 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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No, I meant that i bought it (August i think) sold it in October, and it was such a forgetable car that i have.

(and in the back of the garage is a Rotax Max that hasn't turned a wheel in 3 years, and a Yamaha Pro Moto that hasn't moved in 2)

Back to topic though, Still need advice on rear roll cage, and anyone got an idea on what to use on the floor / space behind seats.

Also towing hooks?

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Tuesday 12th September 2006
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May be worth speaking to Rollcentre - they should know *EXACTLY* what works. Not only do they specialise in cages (or atleast used to) - they also used to have a track prepared cerbera themselves, which was quite quick. hehe The first car to break the european porsche strangle hold of GTO class wins.

Not entirely sure on tow hooks, but again, rollcentre may be able to help.

www.rollcentre.co.uk/

simond001

Original Poster:

4,519 posts

306 months

Wednesday 13th September 2006
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emailed rollcentre.

Any advice on where to buy slicks?

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th September 2006
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simond001 said:
emailed rollcentre.

Any advice on where to buy slicks?


Afraid not, though an ex-owner used to have them on his Cerbera - which I believe has been passed on and made even quicker by its current owner TooTallPaul, who may see this later and know more.

Keep us updated!!

griff2be

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 13th September 2006
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simond001 said:
emailed rollcentre.

Any advice on where to buy slicks?


Yes - you can buy part used slicks from race teams such as mine, if you are running 18" wheels in roughly a 9" width. Alternatively you can buy new ones from DemonTweeks or from places like HP Tyres in Silverstone (for Dunlops).

As for tow hooks - what you need is a short length of webbing/tow strap, looped through the towing eye on the chassis and cable tied near the front/rear of the car where it can be reached if needed. The strap will need to have a sufficiently large loop on the end for the marshals to be able to get a tow hook into.

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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griff2be said:
[quote=simond001]As for tow hooks - what you need is a short length of webbing/tow strap, looped through the towing eye on the chassis and cable tied near the front/rear of the car where it can be reached if needed. The strap will need to have a sufficiently large loop on the end for the marshals to be able to get a tow hook into.


This was suggested to me by one of the sprinting guys just the other weekend at harewood, think I'll pop out to Machine Mart andget one...

www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=020120032&r=2202&g=110

Good luck

Tim

simonsparrow

1,599 posts

291 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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simond001 said:
No, I meant that i bought it (August i think) sold it in October, and it was such a forgetable car that i have.

(and in the back of the garage is a Rotax Max that hasn't turned a wheel in 3 years, and a Yamaha Pro Moto that hasn't moved in 2)

Back to topic though, Still need advice on rear roll cage, and anyone got an idea on what to use on the floor / space behind seats.

Also towing hooks?


APM have a Cerbera with a full roll cage in it, not sure who made it, but they did a good job. Might be worth asking them.

griff2be

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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TT Tim said:
griff2be said:
[quote=simond001]As for tow hooks - what you need is a short length of webbing/tow strap, looped through the towing eye on the chassis and cable tied near the front/rear of the car where it can be reached if needed. The strap will need to have a sufficiently large loop on the end for the marshals to be able to get a tow hook into.


This was suggested to me by one of the sprinting guys just the other weekend at harewood, think I'll pop out to Machine Mart andget one...

www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=020120032&r=2202&g=110

Good luck

Tim


Actually I meant this one: www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=020120031&r=2202&g=110

as you don't really want two metal ends. V close though

simond001

Original Poster:

4,519 posts

306 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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Appreciate the help with the tow strap (ordered). I am hoping to end up with a fixed eye front and back though (get to put the Tow Point sticker on then!)

Car has been booked in for paint today, so really need to get on with the roll cage etc...

Oh, rear diffuser...saw one once on a black cerb, anyone know where it was from?

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Thursday 14th September 2006
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the straps are worth buying just to keep in the boot for emergencies anyway