456 - So cheap! Why?

[dubbs]

Why are 456's so cheap? They're a gorgeous looking car.

Are the two seats in the rear usable?

What are the running costs like on these? Same as a 355 or cheaper?

[granville]

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of (perhaps overly sober) Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.

From an era which gave us the equally sublime aesthete, the 355, the grace of the GT is simply unmatched, probably my preferred Pininfarina silhouette of all, I just adore the damn thing.

All the usual horror stories abound but keep it's book stamped, avoid peasantry dancing on the bonnet and you'll be fine, well 928 service bill-esque fine, i.e heavy duty German, not Ford, service receipts...at least that's what my learned chum Kevin tells me.

For quite a few geezers, these cars are now genuinely affordable ito an aspirational purchase (£30-£50k) and whilst 550s will apparently run rings round 'em, it hardly seems the point.

Jag's 'gorgeous' may make me puke but Fez's 456 makes 'timeless elegance' seem like legitimate euology.

This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

Edited by derestrictor on Wednesday 13th September 16:35

[jasonh]

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.

From an era which gave us the equally sublime aesthete, the 355, the grace of the GT is simply unmatched, probably my preferred Pininfarina silhouette of all, I just adore the damn thing.

All the usual horror stories abound but keep it's book stamped, avoid peasantry dancing on the bonnet and you'll be fine, well 928 service bill-esque fine, i.e heavy duty German, not Ford, service receipts...at least that's what my learned chum Kevin tells me.

For quite a few geezers, these cars are now genuinely affordable ito an aspirational purchase (£30-£50k) and whilst 550s will apparently run rings round 'em, it hardly seems the point.

Jag's 'gorgeous' may make me puke but Fez's 456 makes 'timeless elegance' seem like legitimate euology.

This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

what a top post
sorry, just felt like I had to comment on that one!

[granville]

Exceptional!

That is what it's all about, if you have the means, of course.

[Freddie von Rost]

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

[dubbs]

So based upon an annual mileage of say 6k - what would running costs be of a 35k car with 40k already on the clock?

[Vesuvius 996]

They are gorgeous. I looked at a Rosso car at Cars International at Canary Wharf.

£170k new

It was exceptional and up at £55k. The only problem was the risk of massive (and I mean MASSIVE bills) and a warranty with a £500 claim limit.... Apparently a new engine comes in at about £60k........!!!!

Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Wednesday 13th September 16:46

[craigw]

I love your pics Chaa, must have been amazing

[burriana]

Vesuvius 996 said:

The only problem was the risk of massive (and I mean MASSIVE bills) .... Apparently a new engine comes in at about £60k........!!!!

Hmm, I heard £68k ... plus a few grand for the rear suspension ... so make damn sure there are no leaks from the shockers.

Beautiful car that I did consider not so long ago ... but I just can't afford the risk of a potentially crippling bill

[GregE240]

Freddie von Rost said:

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

Seen her recently mate?

Bit 1664 if you ask me. Shame, but thats the relentless onslaught of time for you.

[Freddie von Rost]

GregE240 said:

Freddie von Rost said:

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

Seen her recently mate?

Bit 1664 if you ask me. Shame, but thats the relentless onslaught of time for you.

My dream and my romantic fantasy. Rather an older KST than some brainless tattooed spermbank any day.

[minimax]

Freddie von Rost said:

GregE240 said:

Freddie von Rost said:

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

Seen her recently mate?

Bit 1664 if you ask me. Shame, but thats the relentless onslaught of time for you.

My dream and my romantic fantasy. Rather an older KST than some brainless tattooed spermbank any day.

my friend, you are choosing the wrong brainless tattooed spermbanks! although KST was indeed spanking gorgeous in FW&F

[Freddie von Rost]

minimax said:

Freddie von Rost said:

GregE240 said:

Freddie von Rost said:

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

Seen her recently mate?

Bit 1664 if you ask me. Shame, but thats the relentless onslaught of time for you.

My dream and my romantic fantasy. Rather an older KST than some brainless tattooed spermbank any day.

my friend, you are choosing the wrong brainless tattooed spermbanks! although KST was indeed spanking gorgeous in FW&F

Yes, she certainly was. And in the English Patient too.

So the choice is between:



and bt spermbank.

Difficult, very difficult.

[dotdog]

68K for a new engine? dont worry - if it blows just buy 2 more 456's!

[Davey S2]

Why all the concern about the engine?

Ferrari V12's are extremely strong. There are also the usual stories about the auto gearboxes going pop and a resulting £40K bill for a new one but I have never heard of any imploding.

Taken my fathers 456 to VMAX a few times and it handled lots of full bore standing starts without a wimper. Felt great all day.

Also done around 3000 miles around Europe in 8 days and it didnt miss a beat.

Costs can be big though. The old mans has gone in today for a service and to have the drivers side door seal replaced. The door seals is £500 each.

Probably need to budget about £3-4K servicing per year assuming nothing goes wrong.

The only problem has been a split radiator hose (a £6 part) which was about £700 in labour to change as it was under the inlet manifold which had to be taken off completely to change it.

Other expensive things are the electric windows which can fail so make sure you get them checked.

And dont crumple the bonnet. A replacement is £8K

Brilliant cars though. Get one.

Edited by Davey S2 on Thursday 14th September 08:56

[burriana]

Davey S2 said:

The door seals is £500 each.

Probably need to budget about £3-4K servicing per year assuming nothing goes wrong.

And dont crumple the bonnet. A replacement is £8K

They're thekind of little surprises that worry me

[-DeaDLocK-]

Davey S2 said:

The door seals is £500 each.

You must be able to get one fabricated for less!

[Vesuvius 996]

Davey S2 said:

Why all the concern about the engine?

Ferrari V12's are extremely strong. There are also the usual stories about the auto gearboxes going pop and a resulting £40K bill for a new one but I have never heard of any imploding.

Taken my fathers 456 to VMAX a few times and it handled lots of full bore standing starts without a wimper. Felt great all day.

Also done around 3000 miles around Europe in 8 days and it didnt miss a beat.

Costs can be big though. The old mans has gone in today for a service and to have the drivers side door seal replaced. The door seals is £500 each.

Probably need to budget about £3-4K servicing per year assuming nothing goes wrong.

The only problem has been a split radiator hose (a £6 part) which was about £700 in labour to change as it was under the inlet manifold which had to be taken off completely to change it.

Other expensive things are the electric windows which can fail so make sure you get them checked.

And dont crumple the bonnet. A replacement is £8K

Brilliant cars though. Get one.

Edited by Davey S2 on Thursday 14th September 08:56

The honourable gentleman makes my point for me!

[minimax]

Freddie von Rost said:

minimax said:

Freddie von Rost said:

GregE240 said:

Freddie von Rost said:

derestrictor said:

Like the 928 before it, this masterpiece seems to have evolved into the sort of the Ferrari that Ferrari owners didn't require.



This is the defintive car for any self respecting Kirstan Scott Thomas sniffer .

KST. Superb choice. Have been in love with her since FW. Gorgeous.

Seen her recently mate?

Bit 1664 if you ask me. Shame, but thats the relentless onslaught of time for you.

My dream and my romantic fantasy. Rather an older KST than some brainless tattooed spermbank any day.

my friend, you are choosing the wrong brainless tattooed spermbanks! although KST was indeed spanking gorgeous in FW&F

Yes, she certainly was. And in the English Patient too.

So the choice is between:



and bt spermbank.

Difficult, very difficult.

As if she looks anywhere near as good as that now...oh well. perhaps you're just old with lower standards than I

[Dr JonboyG]

Now they're getting cheap, buy two, and use one for parts!