Subwoofers
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Scrooloose

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888 posts

246 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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I feel the need to upgrade the audio system in my Cerb.

Does anyone know what sort of depth cavity is behind the helmet holder?

gazzab

21,649 posts

312 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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take the helmet hole out and take a look!!

budaholic

1,516 posts

265 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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One wing nut above your fuel tank...... the alarm control box is behind there.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

270 months

Friday 15th September 2006
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i fitted one today funny enough an alpine 10" 800watt sub sorry i don't know the model but it was £50 new

jensena

5,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Are you just adding the sub-woofer as an addition to the original speakers? or have you already upgraded them?
If you still have the original speakers, instead of adding a SubWoofer Id reccomend replacing the original fronts with bigger MB Quartz ones and 2 x tweeters, did that on mine and it made a huge difference.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

270 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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it came with a £3000 INSTALL its got about 8 speakers it has an MDF surround the sub/helmet holder hole i'll try and get some pics of the sub all the other speakers are infinity


byker28i

91,830 posts

247 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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I've picked up some MB Quart speakers, RCE 216 component speakers for a really good price.

However to fit them probably means I need to spend a day working on the door and from plugging them in I'm not sure they are much better than the pioneers (which seem to be quite high spec ones, not like the usual Cerb ones?)

The woofers are slightly deeper than the originals so even with removing the foam backing I'd probably have to cut off the speaker 'dish' the magnet sits in and deepen it slightly using a fibre glass repair. I could leave it out all together, but I'm guessing it's there to weather protect the speakers.

The tweaters are fine to fit and would mount easily.

Bear in mind that with these as well that you will need additional wiring/connectors to fit it all together.

The other problem is where to fit the crossovers. Due to their size, the only easy place looks to be inside the door itself, so exposed to water running down the window? With the multi connection plug having the speaker connections in them it looks like it would need additinal wiring running in and out of the inner door skin. The really neat job would possibly be to fit the crossovers in the passenger footwell on the box cover under the dash, but this means running 2 additional speaker wires through the door (if we use the original two as well).

Ah decisions, decisions. At the moment it's all as it was.

ireland

3,517 posts

244 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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As a matter of interest, what sort of head units are you all using?

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

270 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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mines an alpine

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

270 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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right hope the help









Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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jensena said:
Are you just adding the sub-woofer as an addition to the original speakers? or have you already upgraded them?
If you still have the original speakers, instead of adding a SubWoofer Id reccomend replacing the original fronts with bigger MB Quartz ones and 2 x tweeters, did that on mine and it made a huge difference.


i'm going to replace the lot.

Someone has already replaced what was in the car with Infinity speakers, which sound completely toss.

The head unit is basic, but good.

I think i'll pay Carl Baker a visit and get a properly installed system.....

mackempete

965 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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running components off the head unit its no where near as good as running them thru an amp. I was amazed at the difference! Almost sub like bass thumbup

Id stay away from infinity, cant go wrong with focal or rainbow though.

Scrooloose

Original Poster:

888 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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mackempete said:
running components off the head unit its no where near as good as running them thru an amp.


That's the plan

FUBAR

17,065 posts

268 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Scrooloose said:
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I think i'll pay Carl Baker a visit and get a properly installed system.....


Ive witnessed ears Steve_T's Carl Baker installation. Frikin awesome

ray_von

3,040 posts

282 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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mackempete said:
cant go wrong with focal or rainbow though.

A devotee of Turners then Pete Don't forget the Genesis amp Awesome

Edited by ray_von on Saturday 16th September 18:34

byker28i

91,830 posts

247 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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How neat is that install of the tweaters - very inpressed

ireland

3,517 posts

244 months

Saturday 16th September 2006
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Yeah, they are well tidy.

mackempete

965 posts

248 months

Sunday 17th September 2006
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ray_von said:
mackempete said:
cant go wrong with focal or rainbow though.

A devotee of Turners then Pete Don't forget the Genesis amp Awesome

Edited by ray_von on Saturday 16th September 18:34


yep thumbup

They do know their stuff! Had the focals in my MK1 Golf and the Rainbows in my chim. Top job both times, couldn't get shot of the alternator whine on the chim though but that was just an earthing problem that I never got round to sorting.

Steve_T

6,356 posts

302 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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byker28i said:
I've picked up some MB Quart speakers, RCE 216 component speakers for a really good price.

However to fit them probably means I need to spend a day working on the door and from plugging them in I'm not sure they are much better than the pioneers (which seem to be quite high spec ones, not like the usual Cerb ones?)

The woofers are slightly deeper than the originals so even with removing the foam backing I'd probably have to cut off the speaker 'dish' the magnet sits in and deepen it slightly using a fibre glass repair. I could leave it out all together, but I'm guessing it's there to weather protect the speakers.

The tweaters are fine to fit and would mount easily.

Bear in mind that with these as well that you will need additional wiring/connectors to fit it all together.

The other problem is where to fit the crossovers. Due to their size, the only easy place looks to be inside the door itself, so exposed to water running down the window? With the multi connection plug having the speaker connections in them it looks like it would need additinal wiring running in and out of the inner door skin. The really neat job would possibly be to fit the crossovers in the passenger footwell on the box cover under the dash, but this means running 2 additional speaker wires through the door (if we use the original two as well).

Ah decisions, decisions. At the moment it's all as it was.


The RCEs ought to trample all over the Pioneers. The only issue with Quarts is that some made it into the US market (due to the acquisition of MB quart), which had the Quart name, but were not built in Germany. There are some Quarts on ebay from the US and it's hard to tell their origin, however if you look at the sellers, they tend not to have a complete range, indicating that they're possibly selling this end of line US stuff. Carl Baker knows the full in's and out's of the saga if you need to know.

Steve.

byker28i

91,830 posts

247 months

Monday 18th September 2006
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This Ad:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MB-Quart-6-5-16
Give's you an idea of the size of the crossovers I have - bearing in mind they are 6.5" speakers.

As I said ont he other speaker thread

There's another couple of ideas here. There are some really slim active subwoofers.

Halfords have the Alpine one:
www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores

and there's a really slim Blaupunkt version designed for fitting under car seats.
www.blaupunkt.com/uk/7606305001_ma I've seen this around for £100

Both of these may fit easily into the helmet storage space.