I think i'm being ripped off!!!
I think i'm being ripped off!!!
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p7 tus

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6,794 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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My car went off to the garage to be fixed due to loss of fluid from the power steering and various other minor niggles. Recieved a call to say that the steering rack needed to be replaced along with the Radiator, a few minor oil leaks were found and a couple of other bits but nothing to major. Total cost including labour £3062.78 yikes. After the initial shock I made a few calls one inparticular to a company who refurbish steering racks. I expained the situation and there reply was this " you cannot buy a new steering rack for a Tuscan because the company who made them has gone bust , however we will refurbish your one for £130 plus vat". I then called back the garage to ask about refurbing mine they said " we will try however it will cost around £600 plus vat and fitting (from the same company). In addition to this I looked into the cost of a new radiator. £380 plus vat from a well known company (and its an all alloy rad which i've been told is better than the original). I was quoted at the garage £580 plus vat and fitting.
As you can imagine its left me feeling a bit p****d off.

richb

55,416 posts

308 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Tell them you will be recovering the car and get the work done elsewhere...

p7 tus

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6,794 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Already done however it has still cost me £300 for the trouble

yzf1070

814 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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p7 tus said:
Already done however it has still cost me £300 for the trouble


I am not asking for names and please do not post a name, but was it a Dealership, an indie, or a general repair garage?

If the rad outfit you are going to deal with is Leven then yes they are highly respected and the product will be better than the standard.

Cheers

G

p7 tus

Original Poster:

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Thursday 21st September 2006
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yzf1070 said:
p7 tus said:
Already done however it has still cost me £300 for the trouble


I am not asking for names and please do not post a name, but was it a Dealership, an indie, or a general repair garage?

If the rad outfit you are going to deal with is Leven then yes they are highly respected and the product will be better than the standard.

Cheers

G


Yes it was Leven and the garage in question was a Dealership!!

whitey

2,508 posts

308 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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does their name ryhme with anything??

P7 TUS

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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No

optimal noise

544 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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The same pepole did my radiator a few days ago (I saw your car there)

They charged me

£225.00 Labour
£190.00 To recon the rad
£21.00 Antifreeze

+ VAT

Total £512.31

Hav'nt had the car that long so did'nt know what to expect does sound a bit much to recondition a rad, one of the guys there was also rude to me.

barefoot

1,050 posts

308 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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This is one of my favourite gripes, you can't name a dealer or warn other Pistonheaders by naming and shaming someone who has obviously tried to rip you off but anyone can call TVR to bad to burn. I just don't get it, surely the rules for one company (both limited companies)should stand for all? Why can a dealer not be named and shamed yet the manufacturer can and often is torn to shreds? Please someone explain the rules on here for me?

trackcar

6,453 posts

250 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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When i was doing repair work I go fed up of recon racks, i've never found a company that can recondition a rack properly .. i eventually insisted that the owners pay for a new rack or i refused to do the job .. i'd end up taking the rack out two or three times before i would eventually get a reconned unit that didn't leak, would self centre properly and was fit for purpose. I reckon i lost money on the vast majority of rack jobs i did in real terms

Recon racks, the work of the devil.

Sadly does it mean that new TVRs will be geting recon racks if they're no longer made? wonder how that works then ...?

andyoleary

1,713 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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barefoot said:
This is one of my favourite gripes, you can't name a dealer or warn other Pistonheaders by naming and shaming someone who has obviously tried to rip you off but anyone can call TVR to bad to burn. I just don't get it, surely the rules for one company (both limited companies)should stand for all? Why can a dealer not be named and shamed yet the manufacturer can and often is torn to shreds? Please someone explain the rules on here for me?


I agree completely....doesn't make sense to me

yzf1070

814 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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andyoleary said:
barefoot said:
This is one of my favourite gripes, you can't name a dealer or warn other Pistonheaders by naming and shaming someone who has obviously tried to rip you off but anyone can call TVR to bad to burn. I just don't get it, surely the rules for one company (both limited companies)should stand for all? Why can a dealer not be named and shamed yet the manufacturer can and often is torn to shreds? Please someone explain the rules on here for me?


I agree completely....doesn't make sense to me


Perhaps there is one way we CAN get around the ahem....suppossed rule.

As JSG once did a survey of rebuilds perhaps we could conduct a similar survey of Dealers and Indies. A simple spread sheet containing the usual customer survey data, such a method does not become personal but one can still rank in their opinion the services received and a picture can be built up of which dealers/indies are good and/or poor.

I would be quite happy to collate the data for those who wish to send it to my email and present it in a spread sheet. How about some of you guys suggesting what kind of data you want collated? May I suggest that rather than using customer names we just simply use the model and year of vehicle, then the preceding columns would contain headers such as Company Name, Dealer or Indie, Type of Work, (in this column a selection of Body Repair, Engine Repair, Elect Repair, Service 6K, Service 12K, Mech repair), Attitude to Customer care, Cost of Work, Value for work done, Recommended?, Comments.

How about that as a starter?

Regards
G

p7 tus

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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yzf1070 said:
andyoleary said:
barefoot said:
This is one of my favourite gripes, you can't name a dealer or warn other Pistonheaders by naming and shaming someone who has obviously tried to rip you off but anyone can call TVR to bad to burn. I just don't get it, surely the rules for one company (both limited companies)should stand for all? Why can a dealer not be named and shamed yet the manufacturer can and often is torn to shreds? Please someone explain the rules on here for me?


I agree completely....doesn't make sense to me


Perhaps there is one way we CAN get around the ahem....suppossed rule.

As JSG once did a survey of rebuilds perhaps we could conduct a similar survey of Dealers and Indies. A simple spread sheet containing the usual customer survey data, such a method does not become personal but one can still rank in their opinion the services received and a picture can be built up of which dealers/indies are good and/or poor.

I would be quite happy to collate the data for those who wish to send it to my email and present it in a spread sheet. How about some of you guys suggesting what kind of data you want collated? May I suggest that rather than using customer names we just simply use the model and year of vehicle, then the preceding columns would contain headers such as Company Name, Dealer or Indie, Type of Work, (in this column a selection of Body Repair, Engine Repair, Elect Repair, Service 6K, Service 12K, Mech repair), Attitude to Customer care, Cost of Work, Value for work done, Recommended?, Comments.

How about that as a starter?

Regards
G



Sounds good to me, Bring it on!!!

p7 tus

Original Poster:

6,794 posts

242 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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p7 tus said:
My car went off to the garage to be fixed due to loss of fluid from the power steering and various other minor niggles. Recieved a call to say that the steering rack needed to be replaced along with the Radiator, a few minor oil leaks were found and a couple of other bits but nothing to major. Total cost including labour £3062.78 yikes. After the initial shock I made a few calls one inparticular to a company who refurbish steering racks. I expained the situation and there reply was this " you cannot buy a new steering rack for a Tuscan because the company who made them has gone bust , however we will refurbish your one for £130 plus vat". I then called back the garage to ask about refurbing mine they said " we will try however it will cost around £600 plus vat and fitting (from the same company). In addition to this I looked into the cost of a new radiator. £380 plus vat from a well known company (and its an all alloy rad which i've been told is better than the original). I was quoted at the garage £580 plus vat and fitting.
As you can imagine its left me feeling a bit p****d off.


I'm now in shock....Last night a friend of mine(who is a BMW engineer) carried out a pressure test to see how bad the leaking radiator was only to find that the radiator is infact not leaking, only a couple of pipes needed to be replaced (the cost of this £3.00). Tonight we will be inspecting the steering rack. Anyone fancy a bet that this will be ok as well. Total saving thus far £3059.78. I WILL BE REPORTING THIS COMPANY TO TRADING STANDARDS>

richb

55,416 posts

308 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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Without naming names, can I ask roughly whereabouts in the country you took your car?

p7 tus

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6,794 posts

242 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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London

whitey

2,508 posts

308 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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P7 tus, please check your email

basil brush

5,528 posts

287 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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p7 tus said:
p7 tus said:
My car went off to the garage to be fixed due to loss of fluid from the power steering and various other minor niggles. Recieved a call to say that the steering rack needed to be replaced along with the Radiator, a few minor oil leaks were found and a couple of other bits but nothing to major. Total cost including labour £3062.78 yikes. After the initial shock I made a few calls one inparticular to a company who refurbish steering racks. I expained the situation and there reply was this " you cannot buy a new steering rack for a Tuscan because the company who made them has gone bust , however we will refurbish your one for £130 plus vat". I then called back the garage to ask about refurbing mine they said " we will try however it will cost around £600 plus vat and fitting (from the same company). In addition to this I looked into the cost of a new radiator. £380 plus vat from a well known company (and its an all alloy rad which i've been told is better than the original). I was quoted at the garage £580 plus vat and fitting.
As you can imagine its left me feeling a bit p****d off.


I'm now in shock....Last night a friend of mine(who is a BMW engineer) carried out a pressure test to see how bad the leaking radiator was only to find that the radiator is infact not leaking, only a couple of pipes needed to be replaced (the cost of this £3.00). Tonight we will be inspecting the steering rack. Anyone fancy a bet that this will be ok as well. Total saving thus far £3059.78. I WILL BE REPORTING THIS COMPANY TO TRADING STANDARDS>


Just keep in mind that mine was pressure tested recently due to a suspected leak but checked out ok even though it wasn't. The crack only opened up and started to leak once the radiator was really hot.

TOV1E

184 posts

246 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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p7 tus said:
London


inner city or outer city........

Big Al.

69,332 posts

282 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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barefoot said:
This is one of my favourite gripes, you can't name a dealer or warn other Pistonheaders by naming and shaming someone who has obviously tried to rip you off but anyone can call TVR to bad to burn. I just don't get it, surely the rules for one company (both limited companies)should stand for all? Why can a dealer not be named and shamed yet the manufacturer can and often is torn to shreds? Please someone explain the rules on here for me?


Sorry for the late reply.

Naming and Shaming.... the reason is simple really there are ALWAYS two sides to every story, when someone posts it is only ever a one sided opinion.
Secondly, this site is PetrolTeds business, and as such any potential damaging remarks could result in legal proceedings taken out against him.

So the naming and shaming policy is rigorously enforced for those two reasons alone.

Hope that gives you a brief insight.
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