Spiders on ebay - Advice needed
Spiders on ebay - Advice needed
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mackempete

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965 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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I'm thinking about bidding on these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/tvr-cerbera-tus

but i'm a bit worried as i thought that you needed 4 fronts for a cerbie. I've spoke to the seller and he says he had them on his cerbie with no problems and they just bolt on?

cerbfan

1,198 posts

256 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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You should be ok depending on the tyres you use. I have the same setup on mine and up until changing my rear tyres from Toyos to F1's I've had no problems. However the F1's have a much squarer shoulder and are rubbing on the arches under compression over a bump. It should be easy enough to fix though by raising the ride height slightly as mine is set a bit to low. However if you have standard non adjustable suspension this won't be an option, however if you use Toyos you will probably be ok anyway.

ireland

3,517 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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mackempete said:
....... as i thought that you needed 4 fronts for a cerbie. .....



Is this the case?

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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ireland said:
mackempete said:
....... as i thought that you needed 4 fronts for a cerbie. .....



Is this the case?



Yes it is the case for 18 inch spiders. BUT you can get away with rears on the rear sometimes.

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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thanks for the quick replies.

So the only issue with the rears on the Rear is the tyres rubbing the arches? Could I not just fit lower profile tires if this is an issue?

Does anything else need doing to fit these tyres? spacers etc

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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You will need to grind out rear arches to get tuscan rears under (maybe).
You will deffo need to hacksaw off rear hubs to get centre caps on.
You will also need to add lock stops on steering rack at the front.
You will also need the appropriate nuts (in black).

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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gazzab said:
You will need to grind out rear arches to get tuscan rears under (maybe).
You will deffo need to hacksaw off rear hubs to get centre caps on.
You will also need to add lock stops on steering rack at the front.
You will also need the appropriate nuts (in black).


Grinding arches? Is that before the wheels will even fit or just to give clearance over bumps?
Hacksaw off rear hubs? Is that easy to do?
Lock stops? Where will I get those?
The wheels come with the nuts so thats that one covered.

Cheers Pete

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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You need to grind arches if wheels are rubbing at rear. Not sure how you do that RIDDS will know.
Hack saw rear hubs - easy but took a lot of elbow grease.
The lock stops cost a few quid from dealers. Can be fitted reasonably easy albeit they nip your fingers!

mackempete

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965 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st September 2006
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Nice one thanks for all the help mate.
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cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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sounds like a lot of work just to put some very fragile wheels on

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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cossiemetro said:
sounds like a lot of work just to put some very fragile wheels on

Whats the basis for suggesting they are fragile. I have had spiders a couple of times and havent had any issues (not like the racelines). I know they have a reputation for buckling but I havent seen that. I know the son in law of the co that makes the wheels (he is marketing director) and whilst he isnt a 'techy' he felt they were a reasonable quality wheel (unlike just about the after market wheels you see in EVO etc).

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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gazzab said:
You need to grind arches if wheels are rubbing at rear. Not sure how you do that RIDDS will know.
Hack saw rear hubs - easy but took a lot of elbow grease.
The lock stops cost a few quid from dealers. Can be fitted reasonably easy albeit they nip your fingers!



hehe

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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ridds, Is modding the arch as easy as cutting out the area of fibreglass thats catching or is there more to it than that?
ta
Pete

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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Nope, as easy as that.

You do have to take care wrt to possible wires that can find their way to the area that you are grinding.

The trickiest bit is reattaching parts that are moved/removed and finishing. Had to move a 100x200mm section from my front arch to clear the front wheels. Suggest that if it's a large section you don;t remove it completely but create a flap that is still attached that you can move out of the way and re fibreglass in position.

Worst part of the job is the dust. Would reccomend doing it outside in the rain if possible! laugh FG resin dust goes everywhere!!!

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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I'm going to cross my fingers that my arches dont need doing... I know a body shop that are pretty good with fibre glass repairs so might be worth getting them to do it if the finger crossing fails...

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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Just fitted a front and rear set to mine and no immediate problems. Didn't need to saw rear hubs either, I think that is actually only if you are using fronts on the rear, with the 42 offset they will sit closer into the body than the rears which have a 33 offset I think. Effectively the benefits you save on one side (not hacking your hubs) you lose on the other with potential rubbing on the arches. I must say that I have not driven my car yet since fitting but plan to do so this afternoon, I have bounced on the rear corners a bit but not really seeing that I will have a problem. Mind you my rear ride height does seem pretty high so that is probably helping. If you get them at a good price you could always speak to pxwheel who do the exchange refurbs, think you did that did you not Gazzab, will take rears and give you front back, obviously you have to pay a bit more money out.

If they go for anything like the money they are at at the mo then you will have a bit of a bargain, and I will feel a bit sick as just paid a lot more.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Friday 22nd September 2006
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Hope you got in there. :llaugh: They've gone.

mackempete

Original Poster:

965 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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Yeah he withdrew the item as I picked them up on friday night. Paid £600 seemed like a fair price to me?

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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seeing TVR pay £50 each for them........?!?
That is a fine price. They often go for nearer £1K with excellent tyres.

ridds

8,372 posts

273 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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Bloody hell, good deal!