G50 Lubricant

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USCANAM

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514 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Getting ready to fill the gearbox.
We have a G50 with a viscose limited slip.
Plan on using Mobil 1 synthetic ATF which is what we use in our racing Cobra that has a Tremac gearbox.
What have you chaps been using?
Thanks
Jack

srreck

529 posts

262 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Castrol Hypo 75W90 goes very well under hot conditions (weather in Spain is mostly warm) with smooth gearchanges but, .....there are more options on good oils......Cheers, Javier

stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th March 2003
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Mobil 1 SCH 75/90 fully synthetic in mine.

USCANAM

Original Poster:

514 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th March 2003
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stig said: Mobil 1 SCH 75/90 fully synthetic in mine.


Chris
Noticed that in your build-site.
Some of the racing guys have suggested RedLine High Impact(green) which is what I use in the F2000.
thanks
Jack

stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th March 2003
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Jack. I did some research and Red Line was one of the options. It was about a 3rd more expensive so I went for the Mobil.

james

1,362 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th March 2003
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I use Royal Purple www.royalpurple.com Very good stuff. I can heartily recommend it.

James

USCANAM

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514 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th March 2003
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Thanks guys.
I talked to my Red Line supplier who also is a top crew chief in the area, and he suggested Red Line Heavy Duty which is red in color, because of the higher horsepower. That's what they have been using at the Rolex 24Hr at Daytona the last few years where he's been working.
I ordered 6 quarts. I think with the cooling system I'll need to put in at least 4.
Jack

kzrd

35 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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Personally the oil that I am going to use in my transaxle is EP 75/90 semi synthetic which is the lubricant that Porsche specify to be used in their transaxles and is also recommended by the Ultima factory.
I have evey confidence that Porsche have extensively tested their products and have selected this particular lubricant for very good reasons. As my transaxle has to cope with over 550 ft/lbs of torque I do not want to risk using un-proved after market products in my drivetrain thank you.
Just because some product has been used in a modified race transaxle does not prove it for road use in a standard unit.

james

1,362 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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There are quite often completely non technical reasons for why a particular manufacturer recommends a particular oil for use in their cars. It might be "good enough" technically, and they can get it cheap (remember that a manufacturer the size of Porsche will buy an awful lot of oil in a year, and cost control comes into everything.

You also mention that your engine is producing huge amounts of torque, more than a standard Porsche road car. For this reason, you may wish to go for a higher spec oil.

At the end of the day, it's all down to personal choice. Porsche recommend a certain oil for whatever reasons they may have (both commercial and technical). Ultima suggest the same oil for their own reasons (I don't know, there may be some sort of liability issue if they tell you to use a particular oil and your gearbox blows up, whereas if they just tell you to use what Porsche use, they can't be held responsible).

Don't go flaming people on this list simply for exchangine experiences. Some people here have more expereince at building and running cars than others. They pass on their experiences via this forum.

James

stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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The fact that the transaxle is mounted upside down compared to a Porsche changes the goalposts somewhat too. Although, this is actually a good thing!

USCANAM

Original Poster:

514 posts

260 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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Good input.
I don't have to put the lubricant in the box for a few weeks yet, so I'm not locked into the Red Line, which I can always use in the F2000.
Appreciate any more comments.
Thanks
Jack

ultimaandy

1,225 posts

265 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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Well I used a mix of Fairy liquid and sicoflex with WD40 as the binding agent!!!!

Seriously though. I used what the factory recomend and I personnelly think there is more of a concern about the level to fill to (as long as you use the right spec box oil).

By turning the box upside down there is a requirement to put more oil in than Porsche specify. It will also be made more difficult by any cooling systems used.

You need to speak to the factory and dicuss the exact requirements of your own box/specification.

B1 ECC

388 posts

256 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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Based on experience, I used Redline in the first box that failed when case-hardening on the crownwheel broke up, it may have had nothing to do with the oil, but for the second box I used Miller semi-synthetic.
The second box has covered more than twice the mileage with no problems. (He said with fingers crossed)

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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B1 ECC said: Based on experience, I used Redline in the first box that failed when case-hardening on the crownwheel broke up, it may have had nothing to do with the oil, but for the second box I used Miller semi-synthetic.
The second box has covered more than twice the mileage with no problems. (He said with fingers crossed)



I seem to remember that Miller is dirt cheap by comparison too. Who says quality costs??

jschwartz

836 posts

259 months

Friday 14th March 2003
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Jack, I filled my G50/52 last night, nearly 8 qts. without a cooler! I used Mobil 1 (GL5) 75W90 Synthetic.
jeff