biodiesel query...
Discussion
I run a 1993 Peugeot 306 1.9 diesel - the last model before they fitted electronic fuelling systems and all that rubbish.
Question 1: can I run this motor on "biodiesel" without adjustments to the mechanical fuel pump or filter unit?
Question 2: where can biodiesel be purchased in / around North Manchester?
Cheers
Question 1: can I run this motor on "biodiesel" without adjustments to the mechanical fuel pump or filter unit?
Question 2: where can biodiesel be purchased in / around North Manchester?
Cheers
Yeah, biodiesel is muck though, the stuff which has gone transesterification can be run straight, straight cooking oil is ok but adjust the pump timing (clatters when cold) and DO NOT USE in cold weather. Viscosity of straight oil increases exponentially as temp is reduced.
My advice, run a kerosene/lubricating oil mix. That is the cheapest way to go. How about diluting industrial veg oil with kerosene? 50/50?
ing about with methanol and NaOH is for weirdy beardies. It is easier to run the above. Is your objective carbon neutral fuel or saving bucks?
Remember to pay your tax for the maximum you have on board and then forget it.
I've run my cars on everything from white spirit, kerosene, cellulose thinners, methanol, gas, etc, etc.
My advice, run a kerosene/lubricating oil mix. That is the cheapest way to go. How about diluting industrial veg oil with kerosene? 50/50?
ing about with methanol and NaOH is for weirdy beardies. It is easier to run the above. Is your objective carbon neutral fuel or saving bucks? Remember to pay your tax for the maximum you have on board and then forget it.
I've run my cars on everything from white spirit, kerosene, cellulose thinners, methanol, gas, etc, etc.
Lubricating oil as in the stuff you pour into an engine?
I understood that Kerosene waxed in cold climates - is this true?
What legal problems might mixing my own fuel to use on the public highway bring upon me - I've read on "veg oil motoring" website that so long as I pay 27.1p / litre to the revenue & customs people all will be well.
Any further ideas?
I understood that Kerosene waxed in cold climates - is this true?
What legal problems might mixing my own fuel to use on the public highway bring upon me - I've read on "veg oil motoring" website that so long as I pay 27.1p / litre to the revenue & customs people all will be well.
Any further ideas?
Good point regarding the law. I would also like to save money as well as help the environment and would be open to mixing fuels in my tank. In other words, would it be simpler to half fill the tank with diesel and fill it with just veg oil or the kerosene mixture previously mentioned. I would like to make a difference, without it be too involved.
Ian.
Get a big tank, phone up the heating oil people, buy some kerosene. Add about 10% veg oil and bung it in your tank. Job done.
Even though this is highly illegal, insist that you pay the tax for what you can be caught with at any one time, ie:- 1 tankful plus a few jerry cans. That covers your arse. I got excited about this (potential £5K fine) and I really couldn't throw any more money at them. If you're really paranoid, disconnect your speedo for 11 months of the year and run a bike speedo. That way they can't see from the miles you've done how much you should have payed. And since you don't use the car that much, you may as well get a limited milage insurance policy
Even though this is highly illegal, insist that you pay the tax for what you can be caught with at any one time, ie:- 1 tankful plus a few jerry cans. That covers your arse. I got excited about this (potential £5K fine) and I really couldn't throw any more money at them. If you're really paranoid, disconnect your speedo for 11 months of the year and run a bike speedo. That way they can't see from the miles you've done how much you should have payed. And since you don't use the car that much, you may as well get a limited milage insurance policy
My Younger brother runs his on used veg oil.
The only thing he told me is that don't used oil which has been used to cook meat, it does something to the oil apparently.
He has a nice set up, two tanks, one for normal diesel, which is used to warm the engine, and as soon as he engine is at the right temperature he swap to veg oil.
He also revert to diesel when he is close to his final destination
Jack
The only thing he told me is that don't used oil which has been used to cook meat, it does something to the oil apparently.
He has a nice set up, two tanks, one for normal diesel, which is used to warm the engine, and as soon as he engine is at the right temperature he swap to veg oil.
He also revert to diesel when he is close to his final destination
Jack
Jack,
This is something I have been considering as well. This gets around the cold starting problems, tell tale smells when sitting in traffic and roadside testing by inspectors. Any info that you can pass my way (private mail if you like) would be much appreciated.
I have also been looking into the biodiesal route, but think that Love Machines idea of Kerosene based fuel would be best. I would imaging that with the same set up as your brothers, Red diesel could be used in the hidden tank. However, I'm unsure how to get Red diesel and stay below the radar of the officials. They must be monitoring this issue like a hawk, as it's a tempting route to take.
Ian.
gjw5670 said:
. em.They screw us for everything we buy, so we might as well screw em back.
em.They screw us for everything we buy, so we might as well screw em back.I agree entirely ! We are being ripped off by the government, who are pretending that it is for our own good ! What would they do if we all changed to battery powered cars overnight ? Who will pay the taxes then ? Grrrrr!
Ian.
I ran my car on Sainsbury's 48p/litre vegetable oil mixed with a bit of petrol, about a coffee mug's worth of petrol to a 3 litre bottle of oil. Mix it in a 5 litre fuel can first, then pour into tank, or remove some of the oil from the bottle and add petrol to that and shake. It's got to be mixed properly.
I used to make sure I had 50:50 oil/petrol and diesel mix and it ran fine, better even than on pure diesel.
What's said above is true though, not in cold temps, I would start it in spring when the temps are rising and summer will be great for it.
I also put one fuill tank of pure diesel through for every 4 mixed tanks.
No problems at all doing this.
I used to make sure I had 50:50 oil/petrol and diesel mix and it ran fine, better even than on pure diesel.
What's said above is true though, not in cold temps, I would start it in spring when the temps are rising and summer will be great for it.
I also put one fuill tank of pure diesel through for every 4 mixed tanks.
No problems at all doing this.
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