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turbo5

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594 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th September 2006
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Here is the official link to the new Civic Type R
www.redh.co.uk/
Dealers are now taking deposits, (£1000)
Out March 2007
IMHO it looks good from the front, not keen on the rear,disapointed it didn't have a power upgrade, LSD, HIDS etc. Its the same engine as the out going model with 1BHP more. They have altered the power band and peak power wont be reached until 8000RPM was 7400RPM. THis car will be heavier than the out going model but they modified the ECU to give it the same 0-60mph.
The various feedback from the Honda forums is its too tame, everybody was expecting more to match or surpass the other various hot hatches on the market VXR ST GTI etc. when the EP3 version come out it was the best hot hatch on the market Value/power/handling and won many an award.
No doubt it will sell loads, but they appear to be reaching out to a different market this time.


CivPilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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Loving the New Redlit dash.


will also be looking into fitting the Titainium gearknob and leather gater to my EX

joesnow

1,533 posts

227 months

Wednesday 27th September 2006
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I drove the 1.4 version of the new civic, and although it has been a while since i drove a new car (my car was launched in the early 90's!) I was impressed with the ride, handling and brakes. This should be good to drive so long as the driver isn't too isolated from what is going on between the tyres and road. Also the NSX-R style wheels look great!

Bada Bing!

944 posts

227 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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Apparently a more hardcore version is coming, which you can spec with lots of bits missing like the rear shelf etc. This should mean there will be a Type R model that harks back to the Integra.

turbo5

Original Poster:

594 posts

211 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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Bada Bing! said:
Apparently a more hardcore version is coming, which you can spec with lots of bits missing like the rear shelf etc. This should mean there will be a Type R model that harks back to the Integra.

I wish
There are supposed to be 3 versions. The Type R as seen on the website, A Type R GT which has say nav, curtain airbags and dual zone aircon and also the stripped out version. This I have heard is not a road going car and wont even come with a chassis number, a bit like the stripped out DC5's they are selling. Also it will only be available in LHD.

Catz

4,812 posts

211 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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Hi Mr Turbo5

Glad I got the old shape civic, still not convinced about that rear either.

__LEE__

7,520 posts

243 months

Thursday 28th September 2006
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I don't like the back either.

I love all of the other angles but feel the engine should be producing more to match the rest of the class though.

Why is Honda's crappy green policy strangling the new Civic Type R? The Type R was always recognized for its pure all round performance but I think given other cars in the same class this is all a bit tame.

I'm disappointed

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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turbo5 said:
Bada Bing! said:
Apparently a more hardcore version is coming, which you can spec with lots of bits missing like the rear shelf etc. This should mean there will be a Type R model that harks back to the Integra.

I wish
There are supposed to be 3 versions. The Type R as seen on the website, A Type R GT which has say nav, curtain airbags and dual zone aircon and also the stripped out version. This I have heard is not a road going car and wont even come with a chassis number, a bit like the stripped out DC5's they are selling. Also it will only be available in LHD.


There are 3 versions but they are slightly different to what you've said.

The 3 version's according to Honda are the Car you see here, a stripped out track ready version of the same car with no soundproofing or gadgets (which will not be available on the UK market) and the 3 car launched at Paris will be a track only version that is not street legal. This will be available in the UK but you have to buy it directly from some race company I can't remember the name of. The first 2 cars have the same engine and at this time according to the Type-R project manager (who is called Mr.Suzuki funnily enough) there will be no super power engined version of the car and there are no current plans for one.

The "GT spec" you talk of is just that, a spec level on the car above. The GT add's multizone climite, bluetooth, satnav, glass roof etc

AR

861 posts

224 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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They slap the R badge to anything these days!

fido

16,799 posts

255 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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__LEE__ said:

Why is Honda's crappy green policy strangling the new Civic Type R?

what green policy? the same 2.0 engine produces 220PS in the Integra [2001-]! i reckon they just want to keep the car mainstream [oldies & youngsters] to attract more buyers. unfortunately i won't be one of them. have to admit though, it looks rather nice compared to other euro-boxes on the market.

__LEE__

7,520 posts

243 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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Honda previously stated they want to keep the engine as tree hugger friendly as possible and hence no engine work or any other changes that will increase emissions.

joesnow

1,533 posts

227 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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You've got to consider how this car fits into Hondas line up. Aren't Japanese production cars restricted to a top HP limit of 280BHP?

Edited by joesnow on Friday 29th September 16:34

turbo5

Original Poster:

594 posts

211 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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Shamelessly stolen from the Civic forum
CIVIC TYPE R - Set to Race

This development programme has produced an exciting range of advanced racing parts for competition level racing, making the Type R a highly competitive contender in the world of amateur racing.

The racing Civic Type R on display has been developed under the current GrA specifications and features:

· A lightweight Chrome Molibdenum alloyed steel roll cage, offering maximum protection for driver and co-driver with additional torsional stiffness to the bodyshell.
· A custom designed 6-speed sequential gearbox, created specifically for the new Civic Type R and the rigors of rallying on tarmac or gravel. The gearbox is operated by the driver through an ergonomic lever, which is hidden below the dashboard and positioned next to the steering wheel. The drivetrain is completed by reinforced driveshafts and a state-of-the-art limited slip differential (plate type with adjustable preload).
· The engine has been further upgraded by means of re-profiled camshafts and other internals for competition use, all of which have been successfully tested in the challenging Nürburgring 24 hours race
· A programmable, custom-developed Engine Control Unit (ECU) which also includes a competition data logger.
· Lightweight carbon-fibre interiors (door panels, dashboard trims, floor panels) that combine the need for weight saving with the 'flavour' of hi-tech motorsport.

The current production plans would allow the Civic Type R to obtain its FIA homologation in GrA & GrN on 01 April 2007. Orders for racing kits and parts can be placed at JAS Motorsport (www.jasmotorsport.com) from October 2006, with first deliveries forecasted for February 2007.

In addition to this engineering relationship, JAS Motorsport continues to provide an extensive range of services to the Honda racing customer, including a free of charge telephone advice facility and full racing support on race tracks and rally events.


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turbo5

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mikespence

41 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Isn't that the coupe version that Honda won't sell here as the previous incarnation didn't shift in any serious numbers?

turbo5

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594 posts

211 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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mikespence said:
Isn't that the coupe version that Honda won't sell here as the previous incarnation didn't shift in any serious numbers?

Yes it is but that would sell more than the new one in the CTR guise

mikespence

41 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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turbo5 said:
mikespence said:
Isn't that the coupe version that Honda won't sell here as the previous incarnation didn't shift in any serious numbers?

Yes it is but that would sell more than the new one in the CTR guise


I agree, the new coupe looks stunning but unless there's some serious u-turns at Honda we won't get to see it over here. Shame as it really would turn some heads.

jeffstelling

944 posts

230 months

Wednesday 15th November 2006
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If the weight is similar to the EP3 Ill be buying one no questions asked.

The improvements honda have made on the chassis of the new model and if they manage to maintain the power/weight it will lead the class.