U-turn motorway driver given ban
U-turn motorway driver given ban
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Mon Ami Mate

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Friday 29th September 2006
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U-turn motorway driver given ban


A man who drove for nearly eight miles down the wrong way on the M4 has been given a two year suspended jail term.

Ali Abdo, 68, originally from Yemen, was also banned from driving for five years at Swindon Crown Court.

The court was told he caused several accidents driving at 80mph near Swindon last February.

He was flagged down by frantic police signalling from the central reservation as he drove to Cardiff after picking his wife up from Heathrow Airport.

In court Abdo, who admitted the offences, was described as a nervous driver who had never driven on a motorway before.

'Dramatic' U-turn

The prosecution said he was actually given the correct directions by a cab driver but as he travelled the right way on the M4 towards his home in Cardiff, he became convinced for some reason that he was driving in the wrong direction.

He then pulled over onto the hard shoulder, completed a "dramatic" U-turn and drove seven-and-a-half miles back towards junction 15.

Abdo said he had a "panic attack" and believed after the U-turn that he was genuinely driving in the right direction.

He was slowed to 30mph by police who chased alongside him on the opposite carriageway.

They then raced on ahead, pulled over, jumped over the central reservation and stood on the carriageway signaling him to stop.

Once he pulled over near to Membury Services, police said he still did not realise what he had done.

His wife Fatma, 38, had to be helped out of the car and was taken to Great Western Hospital for treatment for severe shock.

Speaking outside the court, Abdo said he felt "terrible" and that he "still dreams about it now".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wi

jasandjules

72,626 posts

259 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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Well, at least he got banned.

It's about time they got the dodderers off the road.

LongQ

13,864 posts

263 months

Friday 29th September 2006
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68 year old bloke with a 38 year old wife who, presumably, had been away for a while based on the report that he picked her up from the airport.

Hmm.

Can't condone what happened but it seems entirely reasonably that he may have been distracted and confused ...

Mon Ami Mate

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Friday 29th September 2006
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Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...

jasandjules

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259 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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LongQ said:
Can't condone what happened but it seems entirely reasonably that he may have been distracted and confused ...


Maybe, but scant consolation to the people he would have killed if he had hit a car head on. If you drive on the road, pay attention to the road. I mean, who the hell drives on a motorway and thinks they can execute a U turn??!?!?

martind

2,138 posts

257 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...

Don't you have to retake your test when you have completed a ban ? if so it probably means this driver will never drive on British roads again .

heebeegeetee

30,191 posts

278 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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martind said:
Don't you have to retake your test when you have completed a ban ?


I'm not sure. Do you?

If not, this guy will be back on the roads in 5 years time.

(I mean, lets face it, he's probably back on the roads already, but so long as he doesn't speed he'll be fine.)

tonto

2,983 posts

278 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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martind said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...

Don't you have to retake your test when you have completed a ban ? if so it probably means this driver will never drive on British roads again .


Doesn't stop a lot of people.

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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jasandjules said:
Well, at least he got banned.

It's about time they got the dodderers off the road.


Can trafpol confirm (or otherwise) the impression I get that this is an increasing problem. It might just be here, but there's a regular stream of "Dual Carriageway Wrong Wayers" round here - and in rural Norfolk, there's not much D2 to drive the wrong way round.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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martind said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...

Don't you have to retake your test when you have completed a ban ? if so it probably means this driver will never drive on British roads again .


Not automatically, depends on offence/sentencing.

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...


How long can you drive for here with a foreign licence?

WildCat

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273 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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vonhosen said:
martind said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...

Don't you have to retake your test when you have completed a ban ? if so it probably means this driver will never drive on British roads again .


Not automatically, depends on offence/sentencing.


If this guy cannot read .. then perhaps he must take a UK test.

But EU mainland requires test of all NON -EU citizens (Swiss/Norway /old EFTA countries being exception) within 6 month of residency. Surely UK has similar? I did UK test as matter of course when I married Ted. Und this und your IAM /RoSPA - Pah! Easy Peasy! Und after the rather unfortuante - I got the family BiB to sort me out und re-did the IAM.RoSPA und still passed with goldy marks .. so Nanananhanhanann- nanNAHHHHH! rofl

Mon Ami Mate

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Saturday 30th September 2006
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esselte said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...


How long can you drive for here with a foreign licence?
He's 68 and has been here 50 years apparently. When were driving tests introduced? I recall my grandfather never had to take one, but he'd be 108 if he was still alive...

Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Saturday 30th September 20:01


Edited by Mon Ami Mate on Saturday 30th September 20:02

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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Mon Ami Mate said:
esselte said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...


How long can you drive for here with a foreign licence?
He's 68 and haqs been here 50 years apparently. When were driving tests introduced? I recwll my grandfather never had to take one, but he'd be 108 if he was still alive...


1935 I believe.

Mon Ami Mate

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Saturday 30th September 2006
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vonhosen said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
esselte said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...


How long can you drive for here with a foreign licence?
He's 68 and haqs been here 50 years apparently. When were driving tests introduced? I recwll my grandfather never had to take one, but he'd be 108 if he was still alive...


1935 I believe.
So how come this person has never had to take a driving test then?

WildCat

8,369 posts

273 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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Mon Ami Mate said:
vonhosen said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
esselte said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just heard the story on R5. Apparently the driver can't read and has never taken a British driving test, which exarcerbates things significantly to my mind...


How long can you drive for here with a foreign licence?
He's 68 and haqs been here 50 years apparently. When were driving tests introduced? I recwll my grandfather never had to take one, but he'd be 108 if he was still alive...


1935 I believe.
So how come this person has never had to take a driving test then?


I think you have up to 6 months as non EU citizen und then you revert to provisional./

Is case in Germany... Austria .. Switzerland.. France.. Holland anyway. I am sure lieber von will tell us if UK ist different. MY understandiung ist that UK also requires some education to standard if long term residency as in over 6 months' stay.

catso

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Saturday 30th September 2006
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WildCat said:

I think you have up to 6 months as non EU citizen und then you revert to provisional./

Is case in Germany... Austria .. Switzerland.. France.. Holland anyway. I am sure lieber von will tell us if UK ist different. MY understandiung ist that UK also requires some education to standard if long term residency as in over 6 months' stay.


Used to be 12 months. I got my Driving Licence in Italy and when I moved here I had 12 months in which to pass a UK test, although now another EU country licence holder would not need to take a UK test.

beer


Edited by catso on Saturday 30th September 20:46

esselte

14,626 posts

297 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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So this guy should have had to have taken a UK test then?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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IIRC 50 years ago Yemen would have still been a British colony. Perhaps back then as they were, he would have been able to do a straight licence exchange. The rules that exist now would not have been the same back then.

smeggy

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269 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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esselte said:
So this guy should have had to have taken a UK test then?

Provisional drivers are banned from motorway tuition, so what would that have achieved?

An advanced (re)test should be the minimum!