written cautions for speeding
written cautions for speeding
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lordpicton

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23 posts

241 months

Saturday 30th September 2006
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A couple of years ago several professional Sunderland football players were arrested for driving through the town at night firing a BB gun at passers by in the street. Next day they were all kicked out after recieving an official warning from the duty inspector. Probably on that very same day a driver drove through a speed camera in Sunderland about 36 mph , was fined £60 and awarded 3 penalty points. Something stinks doesn't it?

insanojackson

6,026 posts

274 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

WildCat

8,369 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.


But it does not work that way - except now maybe in Lancs for 33-35 mph after "rebels" hehe led the way in protest letters over Speed Course offers for this und for only one. There was one bloke who got 9 points in Blackpool for driving along prom at 34-35 mph in 2003. He got Speed Course for one offence und thus saved his licence from tot-up. This case - I think - tipped the scales of protest. They now send out letters for low speeds und offer the course across entire range of limits up to 10% + FIVE! Which ist some improvement - und course ist COAST based.. It was a small victory of a sort.. the ultimate would be in getting police back und no scammerati - but still offer the course based on a more professional judgement as per a well trained BiB

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.


I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.

gorvid

22,371 posts

255 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.


I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.


But surely you could say this about any offence Von...?

"I doubt its their first time..."

Surely its more reasonable [as with other offences] record the offence and issue a caution so you can nail them next time?

It sounds like you are saying "ah well....they probably sped already so bugger 'em"

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.


I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.

Surely giving a caution is a bit different from failing to catch them or ignoring them. I admit I'm ignorant of what a caution is but wouldn't it involve a bit of a chat? An explanation of the offence, of why society finds it unacceptable and a warning that future offences would result in prosecution.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Sunday 1st October 2006
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herewego said:
vonhosen said:
herewego said:
insanojackson said:
I think they actually got a formal caution, as anyone would if it was there first offence and they admitted their guilt. I worked there at the time.

He has a point though hasn't he? Speeders should also get a caution for their first offence.


I doubt anyone is prosecuted for their first offence, they'll have commited a number before being caught. Even the SCP aren't going to prosecute you for 31 in a 30.

Surely giving a caution is a bit different from failing to catch them or ignoring them. I admit I'm ignorant of what a caution is but wouldn't it involve a bit of a chat? An explanation of the offence, of why society finds it unacceptable and a warning that future offences would result in prosecution.

A formal caution is for recordable offences, Speeding isn't one.
There is no mechanism for a recordable/searchable warning for the offence, so what you suggest won't happen. That doesn't mean though that a warning isn't an option open to prosecuting authorities, just as NFA is an option open to them.