ipod won't sync my paid for albums
ipod won't sync my paid for albums
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combemarshal

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Wednesday 4th October 2006
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I bought a few albums from the itunes site and sync'd them with my ipod, Everything was hunky dorry.
Then some one went and deleted itunes from my pc, the computer then did a sync, and now it won't sync the paid for albums as it says 'some of the tunes are not authorised to play on this computer' Why do they no longer work??

Cheers, Lee

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Should be an 'authorize' option in the advanced menu.

combemarshal

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256 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Spot on, Just came back to Post my cure, obvious now I think of it!!!!

PJR

2,616 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th October 2006
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Glad you got it sorted.. Be careful in future though. I think you will find that you can only authorise a computer/iPod so many times.. I think its 5 times per track.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

313 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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PJR said:
Glad you got it sorted.. Be careful in future though. I think you will find that you can only authorise a computer/iPod so many times.. I think its 5 times per track.


Ah, the joys of DRM. This online music malarky is all well and good, but I don't like the idea of buying something only to be told that I no longer have the right to use it. I think I would much rather get a CD and rip it myself.

spitfire-ian

4,248 posts

258 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Burn your downloaded albums to cd, rip them back off and hey presto, no protection

robbieduncan

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266 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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PJR said:
Glad you got it sorted.. Be careful in future though. I think you will find that you can only authorise a computer/iPod so many times.. I think its 5 times per track.


You can only have 5 computers authorised to play your tracks (all tracks, you cannot authorise per track) at any single time. You can deauthorise any computer from within iTunes. If you forget to do this/can't as your machine is dead etc you can send Apple a polite message asking them to deauthorise all your computers. I've heard they will do this twice a year without asking questions...

PJR

2,616 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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tank slapper said:
Ah, the joys of DRM. This online music malarky is all well and good, but I don't like the idea of buying something only to be told that I no longer have the right to use it. I think I would much rather get a CD and rip it myself.


But you will retain the right to use it, if you make sure you de-authorise your old comp.


robbieduncan said:
PJR said:
Glad you got it sorted.. Be careful in future though. I think you will find that you can only authorise a computer/iPod so many times.. I think its 5 times per track.


You can only have 5 computers authorised to play your tracks (all tracks, you cannot authorise per track) at any single time. You can deauthorise any computer from within iTunes. If you forget to do this/can't as your machine is dead etc you can send Apple a polite message asking them to deauthorise all your computers. I've heard they will do this twice a year without asking questions...



Yes and no.. You cant manually authorise/deauthorise individual tracks yourself. But if (for example) you burn some of your itunes purchased songs to a CD, you lose 1 authorisation count on each of those songs. Also, if some of your iTunes purchases are added to an iPod, but not others, then only those added to the iPod will take an extra authorisation count. So from that point of view, it is on a per track basis.
So this might cause problems/confusion in future when trying to put all your music on a new ipod/computer, and find that some of them wont play, due to depleted authorisation counts.

I must admit, im not a fan of this type of DRM malarky, but if you just keep in mind how it works, then really, it isn't a problem. Still, I used to use a little app which stripped off the drm code, so then I could do whatever I liked with my music. But unfortunately, this app hasn't been able to work since iTunes 6 and shows no sign of being updated any time soon either.
The reason I wanted the code stripped off, wasnt so that I could pirate the music and send it off to millions of people. It was so that I could use the tracks in DJ Traktor software. It doesnt recognise the protected files. But unprotected ones are fine. Until I can find a good way around this, I wont buy anything else from the iTunes store.

Cheers, P

Edited by PJR on Thursday 5th October 14:58

combemarshal

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256 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Thanks for the tips!

Now the next one, Why do some Cd's only rip at 0.5x and I'm not playing it at the time, it's crazy, thats twice as long as if I listened to it!!

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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What format are you encoding them to?

combemarshal

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Thursday 5th October 2006
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Got me, I just put the discs in and iTunes does the rest!!!
Is there a better standard than the Standard one!

combemarshal

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Thursday 5th October 2006
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I think it's AAC, some times it goes upto 8.0x

PJR

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242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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The rip speed can vary quite considerably, and depends on 2 or 3 things. Obviously a more powerful computer is going to rip them faster. Also, AAC seems to take a bit longer to rip compared to a similar bit rate MP3 (but should not be as slow as X 0.5!?). But the one that varies the most, is where on the CD the track is being ripped from. The spin speed of the disc varies a lot from the inside (where the 1st track is) to the outside (where the last track is). You'll notice it rips faster when it gets to the last few tracks. But still, 0.5 is too slow, unless your computer is seriously old?
Cheers, P

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

266 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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PJR said:
Yes and no.. You cant manually authorise/deauthorise individual tracks yourself. But if (for example) you burn some of your itunes purchased songs to a CD, you lose 1 authorisation count on each of those songs. Also, if some of your iTunes purchases are added to an iPod, but not others, then only those added to the iPod will take an extra authorisation count. So from that point of view, it is on a per track basis.
So this might cause problems/confusion in future when trying to put all your music on a new ipod/computer, and find that some of them wont play, due to depleted authorisation counts.


This is just wrong. Burning to CD does not alter the ability to play on computers or iPods. The DRM restrictions are up to 5 computers and unlimited iPods. A playlist containing a Fairplay DRM'd track can only be burnt to CD 7 times but the same track can be burnt any number of times in other playlists. Note that the burning limit is not related to the number of computers or iPods you can play the track on.

PJR

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242 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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robbieduncan said:
PJR said:
Yes and no.. You cant manually authorise/deauthorise individual tracks yourself. But if (for example) you burn some of your itunes purchased songs to a CD, you lose 1 authorisation count on each of those songs. Also, if some of your iTunes purchases are added to an iPod, but not others, then only those added to the iPod will take an extra authorisation count. So from that point of view, it is on a per track basis.
So this might cause problems/confusion in future when trying to put all your music on a new ipod/computer, and find that some of them wont play, due to depleted authorisation counts.


This is just wrong. Burning to CD does not alter the ability to play on computers or iPods. The DRM restrictions are up to 5 computers and unlimited iPods. A playlist containing a Fairplay DRM'd track can only be burnt to CD 7 times but the same track can be burnt any number of times in other playlists. Note that the burning limit is not related to the number of computers or iPods you can play the track on.


Thats not what I read on Apples own website some time ago. Although that doesn't mean they cant have changed it since then of course.

robbieduncan

1,993 posts

266 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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PJR said:
Thats not what I read on Apples own website some time ago. Although that doesn't mean they cant have changed it since then of course.


www.apple.com/pt/support/itunes/authorization.html

The only thing they've changed in Fairplay was the number of computers (went from 3 to 5) and number of times you could burn an unchanged playlist (went from 10 to 7). The number of burns has never effected the number of computers or iPods.

FrenchTVR

1,844 posts

297 months

Friday 6th October 2006
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I ripped my CD collection to iTunes but I have a drop out of about 1/2 a second, about 5 seconds into the first track of each album. Has anyone else had this problem? Very bloody aggravating.