Clutch? Slave or Master?
Clutch? Slave or Master?
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BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I was my way to work last night,when a mile in to my journey i noticed the peddle suddenly went funny and there was a groaning noise every time i depressed the clutch.I managed to get a further 4 miles before the clutch peddle finally gave up at a set of traffic lights.The peddal went all floppy,couldnt get any gear with the engine running,but could with the engine off and there was a pool of clutch fluid under the car.Ive had a new slave fitted three weeks ago.Is it this again or master cylinder?

JohnSW20

886 posts

266 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Hi
I'm not sure but I think if the master goes the fulid ends up in the drivers foot well?

John

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Its sounds to me like the release bearing has given up and mashed the fingers too, hence the groaning sound. This would allow the inner part of the slave to push out and let the fluid out!

BLUETHUNDER

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7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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No fluid in the footwell it was all underneath the car.

BLUETHUNDER

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289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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How can i explain.The groaning sound was more like,when the clutch was being pressed down,it sounded like a moving part that hadnt been oiled for along time,if you know what i mean.

spartacus

2,878 posts

299 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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The slave cylinder is in the bell housing, the master is the other side of the fire wall from the pedal, if you have fluid under the car I'm afraid its the slave, which means gearbox out time and new clutch!

BLUETHUNDER

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Thursday 5th October 2006
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It had a brand new slave fitted three weeks ago.

billy no brakes

2,675 posts

294 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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spartacus said:
The slave cylinder is in the bell housing, the master is the other side of the fire wall from the pedal, if you have fluid under the car I'm afraid its the slave, which means gearbox out time and new clutch!


yep deffo slave had the same with mine twice they have an improved slave cylinder now so ask for that one

BLUETHUNDER

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289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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This was supposed to be the new type.

billy no brakes

2,675 posts

294 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
This was supposed to be the new type.


oh dear who fitted it and there must be an issue with the slave clyinder not being fit for purpose

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
It had a brand new slave fitted three weeks ago.
It sounds the same as what happened on mine when the slave went I'm afraid.

Did you have the clutch or anything else replaced at the same time? Possibly something else is causing addition pressure on the slave causing it to fail so quickly...

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
It had a brand new slave fitted three weeks ago.


See my post above.

It sounds like the release bearing has given up. This would caust the clutch, moving, to rub against the seized bearing, causing the rubbibg sound.

Call who ever did it and tell them to sort it. It must have 28 days warranty, at least.

Call them now.

BLUETHUNDER

Original Poster:

7,881 posts

289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I had the new slave fitted and thrust bearing as well.So if the slaves gone again do i need a new clutch this time?If i do then i take it that the fluid from the slave has p***ed all over the clutch plate rendering it useless?

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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It's not impossible for the fluid to get to the plates but it's unlikely.

It sounds more like the slave wasn't been fitted properly. You cant go far wrong, but care needs to be taken with the seals and it does need to be tightend down evenly.
Who fitted the slave?

It could even be that all or some of the 4 allen key bolts that hold the slave in place have come loose, causing the slave to become out of position and for you to lose your fluid.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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If you can get under the car to have a look, try and see where the fluid is coming from.
It will either be between the bellhousing and Gearbox or there is a little hole at the bottom of the gearbox. (Unless its bad then it'll be coming out of both.)

It might help identify where the fault is!!

BLUETHUNDER

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289 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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I dont know if i should post who done the work.Only reason being is i dont want people getting the wrong conclusion and saying things they shouldnt.They have done a first class job for me with the recent work ive had done on the car and couldnt recommend them high enough.Infact the car was transported back there at 3,o,clock this morning.

*Phoenix*

3,065 posts

286 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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Cerberas and clutches and hyrdaulics normally work or dont, one thing after another... bloody shite. Cant be blamed on the mechs, its just a nightmare, I reckon we should shove in Porsche hydraulics!!!

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Thursday 5th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
I dont know if i should post who done the work.Only reason being is i dont want people getting the wrong conclusion and saying things they shouldnt.They have done a first class job for me with the recent work ive had done on the car and couldnt recommend them high enough.Infact the car was transported back there at 3,o,clock this morning.


I am sure a good indy will sort you out, not to worry.

I hear they are very good, the chaps you use, with great costomer service. Ve sure to post the findings on here so we know what it was.

BLUETHUNDER

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289 months

Saturday 7th October 2006
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Will do

BLUETHUNDER

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Got a phone call earlier yesterday to say the car was finished.It turned out to be one of the bolts holding the slave had (snapped)causing the fluid to leak out.