caught speeding wife in labour !
Discussion
what happens if your wife needs taking to the hospital quicktime you're out for a drive in the country then whoosh your velour seats have just absorbed 2 gallons of amneotic fluid , she turns to you and says " we have to get to the hospital NOW its you're fault im in this condition you b****** " so you break the limit run a couple of lights you get stopped outside the hospital.
q: are you taking the law into your own hands , or are there exceptional circumstances when you can get away with it.
q: are you taking the law into your own hands , or are there exceptional circumstances when you can get away with it.
i am assuming you want to get her to hospital to give birth not for trauma treatment mds automotive said:
there are too many young cops looking to score points , would they not say i was endangering public life as i was not making others aware of my intentions i.e. no flashing blue lights
I would not say young cops looking to score points , it is t
tish in the extreme to run lights Its your own choice:
Is running a red light worth it to possibly kill both of you and the baby? Probably not.
Is speeding driving safely and getting there quicker worth the slight chance of being caught and a 60 quid fine? Maybe.
Is driving quickly whilst you are emotional and distacted a good idea? Probably not.
Is running a red light worth it to possibly kill both of you and the baby? Probably not.
Is speeding driving safely and getting there quicker worth the slight chance of being caught and a 60 quid fine? Maybe.
Is driving quickly whilst you are emotional and distacted a good idea? Probably not.
mds automotive said:
what happens if your wife needs taking to the hospital quicktime you're out for a drive in the country then whoosh your velour seats have just absorbed 2 gallons of amneotic fluid , she turns to you and says " we have to get to the hospital NOW its you're fault im in this condition you b****** " so you break the limit run a couple of lights you get stopped outside the hospital.
q: are you taking the law into your own hands , or are there exceptional circumstances when you can get away with it.
q: are you taking the law into your own hands , or are there exceptional circumstances when you can get away with it.
Chap last year had NIP cancelled - but only after he hit the tabloids und public outcry went into overload.
She gave birht 20 minutes after reaching hospital by the way. In my case .. am lucky ..had quick labours each time. Never carried any child to 9 months though. Eldest was two weeks early.. twins .. three weeks early ..Lukas und Racheal each four week early. Und all over quickly too und ist a mix of very pleasant und harder unpleasant if you understand me
Nothing to be frighened about as we wimmin have a curious bio-chemical reaction which see us through all that. You still feel it though .. but you have some very strong emotion when you see your new baby.. which just makes everything just perfectly right - und the "pains" of the labour just "mist" away und ist forgotten. Men will not understand.. but wimmin will. Am odd case though. Had awful "freak" accident years ago. Man was taken fatally ill .. hit me at speed.. was not nicest of experiences.
Lucky as I recover to full health und re-take all driving tests to make sure I am safe as can be.
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though. Lukas (now aged eight) was delivered by Mad Doc in our kitchen.. 4 weeks early und Lukas und self needed hospital help. Mad Doc phoned for police escort und they did escort us that time.
Racheal? Our youngest?
.. I went for a "toes-up" She decided to make her arrival. Mad Doc phoned for assistance. Bundled me into car. We were met half way to hospital by Cumbria's finest und Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
I do recall telling Mad Doc to get a b
y move one as kitten production? Once I start.. ist fairly quick. Ist SPEEDY MATTERS of course with me 
WildCat said:
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You still feel it though .. but you have some very strong emotion when you see your new baby.. which just makes everything just perfectly right - und the "pains" of the labour just "mist" away und ist forgotten. Men will not understand.. but wimmin will.
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You still feel it though .. but you have some very strong emotion when you see your new baby.. which just makes everything just perfectly right - und the "pains" of the labour just "mist" away und ist forgotten. Men will not understand.. but wimmin will.
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I understand that there are hormones that kick in after birth to erase the memory of the pain of birth. Men don't have that luxury and remember the pain our wives went through in great detail -- at 2nd hand of course.
surely if it were a medical emergency - and I DO percieve a birth to be such due to the possibility of complications etc, then it would be harsh for the CPS to proceed with a prosecution.
Dependant on circumstance of course - out in the woods on a hike and then it starts - yes. at home, in comfortable surroundings with a working phone to call an ambulance, no
In the former, which is what we are focusing on, there are so many variables I cannot cover them all.
with regard to your own example, if an ambulance were unavailable for whatever reason, you have no special dispensation, per se, to break any road law no matter what the circumstance.
However, if, it were a true medical emergency, and complaints were lodged with regard to speeding or jumping red lights etc I would have thought that the 'not in the public interest to prosecute' box would be ticked and that the problem would dissolve.
In short, if it does happen - pursue any normal channels of resolution such as ambulance service etc first (if appropriate) and then, if not, get to hospital as quick as poss, in your own car if necessary but bear in mind that even if in extremis, if your driving falls far below that which would be considered appropriate by a careful and competant 'other' driver then you could be answering questions as to why and wherehow etc
Dependant on circumstance of course - out in the woods on a hike and then it starts - yes. at home, in comfortable surroundings with a working phone to call an ambulance, no
In the former, which is what we are focusing on, there are so many variables I cannot cover them all.
with regard to your own example, if an ambulance were unavailable for whatever reason, you have no special dispensation, per se, to break any road law no matter what the circumstance.
However, if, it were a true medical emergency, and complaints were lodged with regard to speeding or jumping red lights etc I would have thought that the 'not in the public interest to prosecute' box would be ticked and that the problem would dissolve.
In short, if it does happen - pursue any normal channels of resolution such as ambulance service etc first (if appropriate) and then, if not, get to hospital as quick as poss, in your own car if necessary but bear in mind that even if in extremis, if your driving falls far below that which would be considered appropriate by a careful and competant 'other' driver then you could be answering questions as to why and wherehow etc
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
maddog993 said:
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
I thought there was exemption for vehicles being used as an ambulance. I dont recall caveats such as trained drivers etc. Anyone care to explain?
s2art said:
maddog993 said:
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
I thought there was exemption for vehicles being used as an ambulance. I dont recall caveats such as trained drivers etc. Anyone care to explain?
There isn't a requirement in law for the driver to have had training.......yet. The new Road Safety Bill when enacted will amend the The Road Traffic Regulation Act so that it does.
vonhosen said:
s2art said:
maddog993 said:
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
I thought there was exemption for vehicles being used as an ambulance. I dont recall caveats such as trained drivers etc. Anyone care to explain?
There isn't a requirement in law for the driver to have had training.......yet. The new Road Safety Bill when enacted will amend the The Road Traffic Regulation Act so that it does.
Any idea what would constitute suitable training. Can a private individual undertake such training? Such as being an Advanced Driver?
s2art said:
vonhosen said:
s2art said:
maddog993 said:
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
I thought there was exemption for vehicles being used as an ambulance. I dont recall caveats such as trained drivers etc. Anyone care to explain?
There isn't a requirement in law for the driver to have had training.......yet. The new Road Safety Bill when enacted will amend the The Road Traffic Regulation Act so that it does.
Any idea what would constitute suitable training. Can a private individual undertake such training? Such as being an Advanced Driver?
It has to be an approved high speed course. I don't think members of the public will be allowed to do them.
You can read about it here
vonhosen said:
s2art said:
vonhosen said:
s2art said:
maddog993 said:
MrsMiggins said:
Couldn't you claim an exemption as your vehicle is being used as an ambulance?
certainly no exemption - not a recognised emergency vehicle, no visible&audible warning devices and untrained driver
WildCat said:
Mad Doc (husband) use his green light to get me to hospital though.....
R Mad Doc had his Green lights all the way too.
No Road Traffic exemptions for 'Green Lighted' Doctor's vehicle - eg. all speed limits and traffic lights must be adhered to. Green lights are purely advisory that vehicle is en-route to an 'urgent' medical case (as opposed to 'emergency')
Having said all this, if I was in the imminent process of pushing the equivalent of a basket-ball out of my arse (a feat which I have no desire to achieve) I would get a little bit agitated while waiting at traffic-lights.
I thought there was exemption for vehicles being used as an ambulance. I dont recall caveats such as trained drivers etc. Anyone care to explain?
There isn't a requirement in law for the driver to have had training.......yet. The new Road Safety Bill when enacted will amend the The Road Traffic Regulation Act so that it does.
Any idea what would constitute suitable training. Can a private individual undertake such training? Such as being an Advanced Driver?
It has to be an approved high speed course. I don't think members of the public will be allowed to do them.
You can read about it here
I'm not going to argue with you Vonhosen as you know the law infinitely better than I, but I understand that legally you are on very shaky ground as regards not having had emergency driver training while claiming exemptions in an emergency vehicle; Anecdotally I heard that a' Johnnie' (a St Johns Ambulanceman) in a St Johns ambulance that was equipped with the requisite blue lights and sirens was reprimanded by both the police (and ambulance trust and local St Johns organisation) for using the lights and claiming exemptions when he had received no emergency driving training to be able to do so when going to a job.
I also recall a recent court case- off the top of my head (with my admittedly atrocious memory)- whereby a private prosecution was pursued by the family of a fatally injured innocent victim of a rtc involving an ambulance run by a private ambulance company which was driven by personnel who it emerged had received no emergency driver training prior to the crash which ran into the victim's car.
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