leather treatment
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EdT

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5,220 posts

308 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Hi all -

recently I've benefited from a written off Cerb (condolences to whoever owned this car, hope you're driving a replacement) and now have a pair of Cerb seats in our 500. Structurally they are fine, but the leather needs some TLC - more TLC than I can give it, I expect.

Can anyone recommend a good leathercare expert... possibly some re-connolising skills... in the Reading area ?

Ed




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julianhj

8,861 posts

286 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Been thinking about this upgrade - how much difference have you noticed, and do you mind saying how much you paid / where you sourced them?

EdT

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Friday 7th March 2003
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julianhj said: Been thinking about this upgrade - how much difference have you noticed, and do you mind saying how much you paid / where you sourced them?


seats only fitted this morning... picking up car from Ewelme Coachworks tomorrow morning.. drove in yesterday afternoon, job done now! Good price too.

Ed

angusfaldo

2,830 posts

298 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Ed, mine in the Griff were not in the best condition. I used liquid leather. It came in three bottles. One was a scratch "filler" which comrpised matched coloured paint. The second was a mild cleaner, which I used with a soft brush. The third was conditioner which moisturised the leather and brought out the smell.

The pack was about 20 quid I think. I got it from here:

www.liquidleather.com/liquidl.htm

I telephoned the company and he was able to advise me on the right colour coding for my leather. He knows his TVRs pretty well.

I've spoken to people who have used autoglym leather products with a lot of success.

AF

julianhj

8,861 posts

286 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Can you give me an idea how much? How did you locate the seats?

Cheers!

griff2be

5,105 posts

291 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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julianhj said: Can you give me an idea how much? How did you locate the seats?

Cheers!


I don't know how much Ed's were, but I think they were from Douglas Valley Breakers.

A while back they quoted me £750 for 2 fairly tatty Cerb seats plus the little rear seats, which I passed on.


julianhj

8,861 posts

286 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Damn, thats a lot of cash!

Mind you, they probably cost far more new...

Will just have to get mine refurbished, I guess.

EdT

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308 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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located by ringing my list of breakers VERY regularly.. ie daily...

Andy's £ about right

Ed

ps anyone want to buy a pair of full leather 500 seats ?!

Guillotine

5,516 posts

288 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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check out demon tweeks etc for sparco's etc.

sparco / cobra race seats (similar to tamora ones)can be had for £235ish + £20 for runners.

variety of finishes/colours that may match your leather or bodywork.

andyr

EdT

Original Poster:

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308 months

Friday 7th March 2003
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Sloped away from the office a bit early when Da Boss wasnt watching... so made it back to Ewelme C'works before 6....

1st impressions... nice & firm (found originals comfy but not 100% supportive - obviously everyone finds the same seat different though), they look fab!!, but caution.. I reckon I now sit approx 2" higher; being 5'9" its OK as long as I recline the back a little - but if you're lanky / like the back more towards the vertical then trouble. Like the lumbar support. Like the lateral support during cornering. Must get suspension now sorted so can corner faster!

Took a few snaps just now ...






Weather / GP hangover permitting the seats & I will be at VW around noon... N159HTP... do pop over & say hi. I'll be the one taking photos of everything that's car shaped.

Ed

BTW cant recommend Ewelme CW enough - great turnaround & agreeable cost.

EdT

Original Poster:

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308 months

Saturday 8th March 2003
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...anyway so nobody knows anyone that can assist then ?

Ed

dans

1,146 posts

308 months

Saturday 8th March 2003
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don't know any leather fixers, but could do with replacing my griff seats....how much? maill off line cheers Dan

budd

407 posts

292 months

Sunday 9th March 2003
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Try www.croftgate.com Eric will supply a renovation kit for about £60 which includes cleaner,filler,dye,sealer and leather oil,did mine over the winter and they've done from looking very rough to like new don't know how long thefinish will last but it's worth a try before going to the expence of a retrim.

EdT

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Monday 10th March 2003
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budd said: Try www.croftgate.com Eric will supply a renovation kit for about £60 which includes cleaner,filler,dye,sealer and leather oil,did mine over the winter and they've done from looking very rough to like new don't know how long thefinish will last but it's worth a try before going to the expence of a retrim.


Just spoke to Eric - nice chap - will snip small piece off car tonight for colour match & we'll see how it goes... will let you know how it goes.

Ed

budd

407 posts

292 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Remember that the piece you snip off from under the seat will be the colour the car left the factory with, and will differ from the sun bleached leather of the rest of the trim.The first colour Eric mixed for me was(to my eyes )to bright(but spot on with the piece snipped from under the seat) and contrasted strongly with the carpet piping,roof hoop, windscreen surround etc,so I took the seat to Eric and he changed the tint to match the visible leather which blends in with the rest of the trim much better,although it still highlights the need for new carpets.
Maybe sending an headrest or the glove box lid(if the dash is the same colour)to be matched,would compensate for any fading and integrate better with the existing trim.
Hope this helps

EdT

Original Poster:

5,220 posts

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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budd said: Remember that the piece you snip off from under the seat will be the colour the car left the factory with, and will differ from the sun bleached leather of the rest of the trim.The first colour Eric mixed for me was(to my eyes )to bright(but spot on with the piece snipped from under the seat) and contrasted strongly with the carpet piping,roof hoop, windscreen surround etc,so I took the seat to Eric and he changed the tint to match the visible leather which blends in with the rest of the trim much better,although it still highlights the need for new carpets.
Maybe sending an headrest or the glove box lid(if the dash is the same colour)to be matched,would compensate for any fading and integrate better with the existing trim.
Hope this helps


Cheers for that - in fact Eric said pretty much the same thing (perhaps 'TVR' reminded him of you ?!). It's funny... pretty much everything in the car is a slightly different colours.. the seats dont exactly match, the transmission tunnel, the dash.. they're all say 1-2% different. Anyway, if this treatment proves to be a good one in may may treat all the leather when time permits. For now its the seats that really need to be done.

Ed

(looking at a snipped piece of leather next to the keyboard!)

EdT

Original Poster:

5,220 posts

308 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Well, one seat done. I ended up giving it 3 coats, and feeding it twice. Also I took the opportunity to give the seatless interior a clean too.. the amount of crap that was hidden down there!!

The product is fab. Some observations for anyone else that is liekly to do this :

1. mask every little thing you dont want to treat.. i.e handle on the recline adjuster.. even with extreme care little dots of dye fly off the brush when dabbing it on

2. use a good brush that wont drop hair

3. ideally do this outside in the fresh air.. pretty potent stuff this. Trouble is every 30 mins some little bug comes along to investigate my part-dry full leather seat & I've probably totalled over an hour carefully removing these critters & painting over any blemish. South Oxfordshire now has a new breed of magnolia insects slowly flapping around.

4. put sun cream on (you, not the seat). I got a bit burnt. What a great afternoon Saturday was eh?!

5. when feeding a small amount of dye is taken away. I expect this is normal.

6. dont rush. After the 1st cost I was surprised to see that number of little bits I'd missed. Plan your attack.

Ed

EdT

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308 months

Monday 24th March 2003
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Oh forgot to say... the only bit I'm not really happy with are the side sections of folded leather where the seat meets the back. Not a croftgate issue - it's the seat design. In fact the dye has done very well even here. The rest of the seat is nice & tight & crease free.. but this section is loose like the leather around the gear stick. Am wondering what the seats would look like without this section of leather covering... anyone here know ?

Ed

EdT

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Friday 28th March 2003
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Now it's all done have taken a few snaps. Unlike the early snaps taken just after I'd got the seats fitted, these JPGs have nothing to hide! That Croftgate stuff is really very good








Ed