Skyline R33 GTR breaks Jap Record

Skyline R33 GTR breaks Jap Record

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JenkinsComp

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Monday 9th October 2006
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Apparently Tim Webster ran an 8.80 @ 162mph in his R33 Skyline at the Santa Pod Jap Show yesterday, with all 4 slicks squealing.

Did anyone see it or video it? I'd love to see this pass

hornet

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Monday 9th October 2006
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JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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cool cheers

The Enthusiast

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Does the chassis specs meet requirements to race in these imports? Are they constructed like a bracket race car where safety is built in?

JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I don't actually know the car, I just heard about the pass from a mate who was there.
I'd be shocked if they hadn't fitted a cage; I think you can see one from the vid, but it's pretty grainy. SP wouldn't usually allow you to run quicker than 11s without one.

Can't imagine that it is build to drag race rules, as there aren't really any classes for Japanese cars (although it would be nice to change that!).

jon c

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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If only we could get these people to enter a national event...

JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I hear you.
I sponsor, race in and write up the UK Street Racer Series, and I'd dearly love to involve more Japanese and European cars in the series, and create a truly national Street Legal Drag Racing championship.

The trouble is these days that each "sect" keeps themselves to themselves...I just don't geddit. I suppose some prefer to be a big fish in a small pond; maybe that's a tad unfair, perhaps they just like to see their achievements being appreciated.

Something has to be done, we'll end up playing with ourselves instead of each other (ooer)

Flying Toilet

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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That car does have a cage and door bars although I cannot tell you the spec of it.

The car to look out for is the Pink SUMO Powered Skyline out next year. It's owned by SUMO and I don't think they have cut any corners...

hornet

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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jon c said:
If only we could get these people to enter a national event...


Think the trouble is that most of these cars serve as demonstrators for tuners/importers (GTC, Sumo, Abbey, Fensport, Norris etc). Their main customer base is the Japanese car scene, so there is no real benefit for them to race at national events. There really needs to be some sort of crossover event, perhaps a kind of East vs West shootout?

Watching the evolution of these cars over the years has been interesting, as the tuners seem to be locked in a kind of arms race. Now they've run 8s, you can bet people will be looking to the 7s (think there's an Australian Skyline running 7s on methanol), so the machinery is only going to get more hardcore. Quite who they'll race against if/when it gets to that stage will be interesting...that might be when we start seeing a bit of a crossover.

Either way, I'd love to see them up against more "traditional" V8s...would add a new dimension to things.

JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Perhaps the reason why we never see the cars raced by owners is because it takes a company and it's financial backing to make a car go that quick reliably. Once they're done with their promotional work and in the hands of a private owner we never see them again.

I hope I'm talking out of my bottom, as I love these cars just as much as anything else and wish they'd come and race with us, not in a one off "us v them" scenario. Even if there had to be a Japanese class in Street Legal drag racing, if they're all racing together on the same day then they could still qualify for overall championship points as well as class points, and the public would be able to see a wider variety of cars rather than just the small selection on offer at one make gatherings.

Flying Toilet

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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hornet said:
jon c said:
If only we could get these people to enter a national event...

(think there's an Australian Skyline running 7s on methanol


Yes there is and consistently too!

There is a Mitsubishi Evo being built (maybe even finished now) thats running on Methanol and is running a smaller intercooler than most cars due to the cold burning nature of the fuel which saves weight.

As JenkinsComp said, the money it takes to make one of these cars quick is amazing but full respect to them. There next challenge in my eyes is to run an 8 on treads and have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys.

On a seperate note though, if you look at some of the lower classes with the Civic Type R's and the like running 11's/12's in there FWD cars they could enter Sportsman ET or Pro ET i think. Look at Paul Webster and his Mini, that car is one of the quickest in Sportsman ET and with probably the smallest engine! Respect!

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Edited by Flying Toilet on Tuesday 10th October 14:17

JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Flying Toilet said:
Their next challenge in my eyes is to run an 8 on treads and have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys.


They'll have to run 7s on treads to have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys!

Flying Toilet

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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JenkinsComp said:
Flying Toilet said:
Their next challenge in my eyes is to run an 8 on treads and have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys.


They'll have to run 7s on treads to have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys!


I know, but 1 second at a time! Imagine how much its gonna cost them to do it!

MotorPsycho

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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am I right in thinking theyre technically not street legal when racing? theyre on race fuel and often seen cars with a headlight removed for cold air feed i presume?

its impressive but until they're in the 7s on treads with pump gas theyre no match for CCSE

theres turbo V6 cars in the states running 6s....

JenkinsComp

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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That Skyline ran on slicks, so not street legal yet, no.

Still, blooming quick!

Furyous

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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JenkinsComp said:
Flying Toilet said:
Their next challenge in my eyes is to run an 8 on treads and have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys.


They'll have to run 7s on treads to have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys!



Sounds like we need another Garys Internationl Doorslammers style meet.......

Money in the pot,64 car field, cruise to make qualification, and then heads up all day Sunday, winner takes all.

shout Santa Pod.......are you listening ?

MotorPsycho

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212 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Furyous said:
JenkinsComp said:
Flying Toilet said:
Their next challenge in my eyes is to run an 8 on treads and have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys.


They'll have to run 7s on treads to have a match race with the Street Eliminator boys!



Sounds like we need another Garys Internationl Doorslammers style meet.......

Money in the pot,64 car field, cruise to make qualification, and then heads up all day Sunday, winner takes all.

shout Santa Pod.......are you listening ?


Doorslammer Internationals? should fill that slot nicely

jon c

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248 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I dont want to see these guys embarressed, I think they should be encouraged into classes where they would stand an equal chance. I would love to see them go a few rounds in pro-et, and it would encourage the massive following these cars get through the gate for an FIA event. Then, once we have them in, we really get their attention...

The Enthusiast

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212 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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It will cost alot to run these cars in the 7 second bracket. I like the idea of them using new fuels (Methanol etc.)I presume the Skyline that ran 8 seconds would of only run 9.5 seconds on treads. Could you imagine how fast a street eliminator car would go on slicks? Low 7s possibly high 6s. Most of these cars are running conservative set ups at the moment arent they?

MotorPsycho

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Tuesday 10th October 2006
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agreed low 7s would be on the cards on slicks even at 3000+lbs weight, heard figrues of 2000bhp from Splinter's motor? Andy Frost's new turbo setup can't be far away from that?