Hope my clutch isn't going......
Hope my clutch isn't going......
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thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Help!

Just been out for a blast around. On the way back noticed that when I depress the clutch the revs tailor off slowly - almost like they do with engine braking. I'm sure they use to drop off almost instantly? Then I started to get paranoid and really started to analyse things. Like the clutch bite point seems a lot higher than it use to be - was nearly to the floor before and now is quite high up the pedal travel. Also got a few whiffs of clutch burning but was in traffic so not sure if it was me. Before last Saturday, she had been standing around at Austec for nearly 5 weeks having a new paint job. So other than bringing her back to Southampton, she's only done a few miles since.
Does this sound like gremlins where she's been stood around or is it something more serious like the clutch and if so how can I test for sure?

Duke Thrust

1,680 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Could be a sticky throttle cable

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Duke Thrust said:
Could be a sticky throttle cable


Sounds plausible - I did do a mad throttle to the floor in first which I never usually do as I've always been told to apply the power smoothly and progressively. Maybe on full travel some sh*t has coated the cable. Hmmmm, think I'll check it out. Thanks Duke.

Doesn't explain the clutch pedal although this could be all in the mind.... you know what happens when you start to over analyse things.... you start to imagine things

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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it could be just voices in your head

thegreengoblet

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245 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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What, the wife you mean!
[Don't think I'm going to mention anything to her just yet - I can imagine the voices then!]

GarethGTT

430 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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The spring that resists the accelerator snapped on mine not long ago--which was nice suddenly havng a pedal with no resistance whatsoever in mid corner giving it some beans...
anyhow-- noticed driving it with a snapped spring--the reves through 1st an 2nd would take a while to die down between changes.

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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With the car at home try sitting in it and repeatedly press the clutch.
If its fingers then its better they break whilst you are at home than out and about.
If they dont break after a few repeated presses then the chances are you should be ok, (finger wise) but no guarantees tho'.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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if your cluch has gone go for a clutch/master cylinder from http://raceproved.com as they seem to have cracked it top quality stuff and its in stock IMHO i'm sure mark will agree

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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I certainly do yes
for more info (prices) as well as cossiemetro's link go here www.clever-trevor.net/

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Thanks guys for all your input.

Had a quick look and the linkage spring looks intact. Need to take the plastic cowling off and give it a good WD40 just to make sure everthing is free. Oddly, she does seem to be idling a little higher?

Had a look at the Clutches from Clevor Trevor. Great basically. Not as expensive as I thought and in stock. Was worried about not having the car on the road for ages due to lack of stock.
So how easy is it to change? Something I could tackle? (have removed heads and decoked valves in my time) Also, would you do the master/slave cylinder at the same time?

Cheers
Bill

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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I've made a step by step guide to clutch removal including pics. I'll mail it to you if you go ahead with it. I can strip it down now in about 2 1/2 hrs same for putting it back, but it usually takes longer cos I end up cleaning everything.
I do have a pit tho'.
If you can get the car up on ramps and dont mind getting stuck in, then go for it. There are a couple of bugger bolts to get to but nothing too serious.

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

245 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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mad mark said:
I've made a step by step guide to clutch removal including pics. I'll mail it to you if you go ahead with it.


Thanks for the offer MM.

I had a play with the clutch pedal - dumping it to the floor and all seems ok. With the car in neutral she exhibits the slow return of the revs when blipping the throttle. She's definitely idling higher than before 1100 - 1200 rpm (used to be 950 rpm) and she hunting a little. Couldn't smell any burning clutch on the way home last night and into work this morning. It does now feel like a throttle issue and possibly something to do with the spring on the linkage not returning it fully when your foot is off the pedal? Anyway, I'll get a chance to have a good look this weekend so I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks again guys.

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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mad mark said:
I've made a step by step guide to clutch removal including pics. I'll mail it to you if you go ahead with it. I can strip it down now in about 2 1/2 hrs same for putting it back, but it usually takes longer cos I end up cleaning everything.
I do have a pit tho'.
If you can get the car up on ramps and dont mind getting stuck in, then go for it. There are a couple of bugger bolts to get to but nothing too serious.


Oh, could you post on here I bet a lot of us would like to see.

robertjp

2,281 posts

254 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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Julian64 said:
mad mark said:
I've made a step by step guide to clutch removal including pics. I'll mail it to you if you go ahead with it. I can strip it down now in about 2 1/2 hrs same for putting it back, but it usually takes longer cos I end up cleaning everything.
I do have a pit tho'.
If you can get the car up on ramps and dont mind getting stuck in, then go for it. There are a couple of bugger bolts to get to but nothing too serious.


Oh, could you post on here I bet a lot of us would like to see.



I will second that, would like to see this too.

I would think whilst your at it, for the difference it makes in price, replace the slave and master cylinders and use the uprated seals....

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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whilst your at it, for the difference it makes in price, replace the slave and master cylinders and use the uprated seals....

i think thats good advice i know i would if happened to me

mad mark

2,345 posts

261 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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I've got a few modifications to make, before it goes public.
I've got a few torque wrench settings that i'm gonna add. But its almost there.

thegreengoblet

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1,040 posts

245 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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Update...
Finally got this fixed - thanks to Fernhurst.
Turned out to be a faulty throttle pot that just woudn't do as it was told!
The symptoms gradually got worse with increasing idle revs, slower reducing revs when revving and changing gear, and misfires up the rev range.
Thanks to all that contributed.

Bill

SI-PEN

1,009 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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thegreengoblet said:
Update...
Finally got this fixed - thanks to Fernhurst.
Turned out to be a faulty throttle pot that just woudn't do as it was told!
The symptoms gradually got worse with increasing idle revs, slower reducing revs when revving and changing gear, and misfires up the rev range.
Thanks to all that contributed.

Bill


Thanks for telling us the solution to your problem. Something we don't often see.

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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a nice quick fix then good on you

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Wednesday 25th October 2006
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SI-PEN said:
thegreengoblet said:
Update...
Finally got this fixed - thanks to Fernhurst.
Turned out to be a faulty throttle pot that just woudn't do as it was told!
The symptoms gradually got worse with increasing idle revs, slower reducing revs when revving and changing gear, and misfires up the rev range.
Thanks to all that contributed.

Bill


Thanks for telling us the solution to your problem. Something we don't often see.
here,here.