RE: More cash for spy camera research
RE: More cash for spy camera research
Monday 16th October 2006

More cash for spy camera research

Millions more to be poured into watching us


ANPR: just the first of the future's many spy systems
ANPR: just the first of the future's many spy systems

The government is set to spend £9 million on research into so-called intelligent transport systems -- that's more centralised information-gathering over who goes where and when, road charging, and -- potentially -- black boxes that could decide how fast you drive.

The Department of Transport called it "A radical new approach to funding highly innovative and wide ranging research into key long term transport issues".

The initiative was announced last week by Minister for Transport Stephen Ladyman and Lord Sainsbury, DTI Minister for Science and Innovation, at the Intelligent Transport Systems World Congress in London.

The new approach to research is expected to result in far greater advances than simply awarding funding to a single organisation. It will allow a small number of consortia with wide ranging expertise to work in collaboration to tackle some of the major transport challenges we face over the next decade.

The Department for Transport, Department of Trade and Industry and the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council will jointly provide £9 million of funding, with a further £3 million expected from industry itself.

According to the DfT, the Future Intelligent Transport Systems initiative is intended to stimulate new ideas, concepts, products or services that will:

  • Further improve safety on our roads by reducing collisions, casualties and deaths
  • Result in better, more reliable, accessible and safer public transport services
  • Lead to even greater efficiency in the road freight industry;
  • Improve road network management
  • Provide better travel information, allowing travellers to make informed choices on how and when to travel

Stephen Ladyman said: "The UK government has today launched a major research programme on future intelligent transport systems, which together with industry contributions will make over £12 million available for innovative demonstration projects. This is just the start of a fruitful collaboration between government and industry.

"Our vision for this initiative is to support highly innovative and wide-ranging research and technology demonstrator projects, combining the best UK expertise in industry, Local Authorities, transport service providers and universities."

Lord Sainsbury said: "I am delighted that DTI, DfT and EPSRC have come together to fund this important new initiative to help deliver better transport whilst reducing environmental impacts.

"This initiative will bring together UK industry and universities to address key research issues for the longer-term development of the UK transport system. This Innovation Platform, developed by DTI's Technology Strategy Board, builds on both the Office of Science and Innovation's Foresight work and DfT's own strategic thinking to address the transport challenges society faces."

John O'Reilly, Chief Executive of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council said: "The FITS Initiative is an exciting opportunity for EPSRC to work with DTI and DfT to support leading edge research that will address an important national need. It opens up the possibility of new science and engineering techniques and processes being developed and introduced experimentally to address transport problems."

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Neil_c

Original Poster:

61 posts

254 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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Perhaps we should start a sweep stake on what the results will be!

Wouldn't it be nice if the findings didn't result in more restrictions on freedom of moevment and higher costs for motorists but actually improved the situation.

crook

7,612 posts

247 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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If they cannot use the bloody signs on the M-ways constructively how are they going to achieve all that they state with more 'intelligent' cameras?!

GTRene

20,907 posts

247 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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They have to ban the points on your license system me thinks, it tells nothing about the driver skills of such person, only that he drove a bit to fast! anyway it will scare desent people maybe but the real pain in the arsh people and bad drivers learn nothing they also will drive without a license and ensurance! so stop it! thats not what you want!! because without license en ensurance they take off fast! when they see cops so that creates only dangerous situations!!
Also a camera/video system can proove bad driving or dangerous driving! that sounds fare but not the fixed points or scamera vans and the sorts...those are only short time moments and tell nothing about bad driving or dangerous driving!! only redlightcamera's can do that because they only work when the red light is one! (or driving to fast through a green light also mostly)
Anyway, you don't want more trouble on the road, the bad and dangerous drivers will always be there even if you take their drivers license in! but you realy punnish the real "good" people and tax paying people with the systems...
So...got that off my chest(sorry about the bad spellings...)

GTRene

sevener

36 posts

300 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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I received this in the mail...

"Commissioner promises to keep Europe moving with ITS
Commissioner for transport, Jacques Barrot, has outlined plans to keep Europe moving with ITS. In a speech at the Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS) world congress held in London this week, Barrot highlighted the efforts of the UK’s Foresight project, and set out examples of ITS in the context of European transport policy. Galileo and freight transport are top of Barrot’s list, and he announced that he will bring forward a Green paper on Galileo in November in order that the European satellite navigation system is fully operational by 2010."

Their focus may be on freight atm but...

apache

39,731 posts

307 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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No doubt the cheese eating surrender monkeys will show us up for the apathetic lot we are and riot, I can't see them putting up with this bullshit.
Isn't it an infringement of our human rights anyway? or don't we have any unless we burgle a house?

squarepusher

2 posts

239 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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And the irony is WE end up paying for the cost of the research in the scamera fines.
You've got to love this government, stealth taxing us all the way to the grave......

danwww

118 posts

237 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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what kind of airgun would you need to take out one of those cameras?

pugs9000

242 posts

233 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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We apparently live in a democracy, bull s**t, this is turning into a dictatorship. What you should eat, when you should go to the gym, what car you should buy, how you should save for the future so the government can take 40%, always turn your TV off- not stand by, use rain water to wash your cars, this list is endless. Its my money, my license go screw yourself Blair and the rest of the government, instead of persecuting honest motorists catch the uninsured, un taxed, un road worthy car, drug taking alcoholics that use the roads on a daily basis and get away with it. The end, i think i need a lie down. furious

P.S- everybody blames the motorist for the countries problems, maybe the government, instead of going on campaigns for greener driving, go on a campaign to catch all of the rapists, murders and pedo's on the loose in Britain- that would get some respect.

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

282 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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pugs9000 said:
We apparently live in a democracy, bull s**t, this is turning into a dictatorship. What you should eat, when you should go to the gym, what car you should buy, how you should save for the future so the government can take 40%, always turn your TV off- not stand by, use rain water to wash your cars, this list is endless. Its my money, my license go screw yourself Blair and the rest of the government, instead of persecuting honest motorists catch the uninsured, un taxed, un road worthy car, drug taking alcoholics that use the roads on a daily basis and get away with it. The end, i think i need a lie down. furious

P.S- everybody blames the motorist for the countries problems, maybe the government, instead of going on campaigns for greener driving, go on a campaign to catch all of the rapists, murders and pedo's on the loose in Britain- that would get some respect.


That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the I Moan A Lot But Don't Have Anything Alternatively Constructive To Say Party

sidesauce

2,967 posts

241 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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jazzyjeff said:
pugs9000 said:
We apparently live in a democracy, bull s**t, this is turning into a dictatorship. What you should eat, when you should go to the gym, what car you should buy, how you should save for the future so the government can take 40%, always turn your TV off- not stand by, use rain water to wash your cars, this list is endless. Its my money, my license go screw yourself Blair and the rest of the government, instead of persecuting honest motorists catch the uninsured, un taxed, un road worthy car, drug taking alcoholics that use the roads on a daily basis and get away with it. The end, i think i need a lie down. furious

P.S- everybody blames the motorist for the countries problems, maybe the government, instead of going on campaigns for greener driving, go on a campaign to catch all of the rapists, murders and pedo's on the loose in Britain- that would get some respect.


That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the I Moan A Lot But Don't Have Anything Alternatively Constructive To Say Party

DrDeAtH

3,676 posts

255 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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its a shame... the cameras are more intelligent that the poxy government....

police state

4,332 posts

243 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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Bit simplistic this, but; they know that you all (or most), have mortgages, relative trappings of success, children even..., and they know you won't offer any meaningful resistance in stopping their relentless march to control almost every aspect of your lives. It's never been a better time to own a 'uniform of officialdom' business...

Steve-B

920 posts

305 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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gub'mnt guy said:
John O'Reilly, Chief Executive of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council said: "The FITS Initiative is an exciting opportunity for EPSRC to work with DTI and DfT to....


create more incomprehensible acronyms to confuse an already guilable and sheep-like public?

TripleS

4,294 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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pugs9000 said:
We apparently live in a democracy, bull s**t, this is turning into a dictatorship. What you should eat, when you should go to the gym, what car you should buy, how you should save for the future so the government can take 40%, always turn your TV off- not stand by, use rain water to wash your cars, this list is endless. Its my money, my license go screw yourself Blair and the rest of the government, instead of persecuting honest motorists catch the uninsured, un taxed, un road worthy car, drug taking alcoholics that use the roads on a daily basis and get away with it. The end, i think i need a lie down. furious

P.S- everybody blames the motorist for the countries problems, maybe the government, instead of going on campaigns for greener driving, go on a campaign to catch all of the rapists, murders and pedo's on the loose in Britain- that would get some respect.


...and while they're about it I wonder if they could try rounding up those two terrorist suspects that have just legged it. That might be more useful.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

pugs9000

242 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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jazzyjeff said:
pugs9000 said:
We apparently live in a democracy, bull s**t, this is turning into a dictatorship. What you should eat, when you should go to the gym, what car you should buy, how you should save for the future so the government can take 40%, always turn your TV off- not stand by, use rain water to wash your cars, this list is endless. Its my money, my license go screw yourself Blair and the rest of the government, instead of persecuting honest motorists catch the uninsured, un taxed, un road worthy car, drug taking alcoholics that use the roads on a daily basis and get away with it. The end, i think i need a lie down. furious

P.S- everybody blames the motorist for the countries problems, maybe the government, instead of going on campaigns for greener driving, go on a campaign to catch all of the rapists, murders and pedo's on the loose in Britain- that would get some respect.


That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the I Moan A Lot But Don't Have Anything Alternatively Constructive To Say Party


Fair comment jazzyjeff, however, you may of missed my point/i never made it clear enough. I'm simply stating the government is pouring vasts amounts of resources into catching motorists slightly speeding when there are drug takers, alcoholics, un taxed/insured/road worthy car & drivers out there getting away with it everyday, they could just put the money into extra traffic officers in unmarked cars. These officers could actually catch all of the above mentioned criminals as well as dealing with speeders and dangerious drivers.I know many people on the forum would shudder at the thought of more highly trained cops in under cover evos but i fully respect all divions of the police as due to current political circumstances their job is very, very hard.

PS i hope that is a bit more constructive for you jazzyjeff.

Edited by pugs9000 on Tuesday 17th October 12:17

Spider Glove

1 posts

233 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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They need a camera that detects the driver without insurance, the joy rider, the scaghead, the fly tipper, the irratic 4x4 driver with a 'baby on board' sticker in their rear window who cuts you up at the lights, etc. and make them vanish from existence

who me ?

7,455 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th October 2006
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"Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS)"----

Who are they putting in charge ?? rolleyes rolleyes

Edited by who me ? on Wednesday 18th October 17:24

TripleS

4,294 posts

265 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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[quote=who me ?]"Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS)"----

Who are they putting in charge ?? rolleyes rolleyes

Edited by who me ? on Wednesday 18th October 17:24
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Tony, of course - and then the acronym will be....er, well what they all are!

Best wishes all,
Dave.

johnsam

38 posts

272 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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It's all very well having Intelligent Transport Systems, what we need is an intelligent transport minister. Ladyman and his New Labour predecessors have presided over the deterioration of our roads, putting in cameras and speed bumps and doing everything they can to impede the smooth flow of traffic.

thinfourth

1,189 posts

244 months

Friday 26th January 2007
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[quote=who me ?]"Intelligent Transport Systems (ITS)"----

Who are they putting in charge ?? rolleyes rolleyes

Edited by who me ? on Wednesday 18th October 17:24
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Totally Intelligent Transport Systems

TITS