Met the dark side of the force tonight
Met the dark side of the force tonight
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cramorra

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1,689 posts

264 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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Although it is certainly not frozen yet- if at all a bit damp- I nearly lost it in one of my usual roundabouts tonight- slow in fast out was the plan- but front end out first if poss- nearly gone out backwards- without the slightest warning- looking forward to the winter- anyone here who thinks prewarning might be better7 more feeling with a suspension upgrade? Luckily I was slow enough to catch back end again....

cooky

4,955 posts

266 months

Monday 16th October 2006
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you were warned.....dude
enjoy

GarethGTT

430 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Ive had the backend come out at 15mph on a couple of occasions--i was just thankful i was going that slow...if any faster i would have lost it spun and hit barriers.

my rule is if its damp, off camber or frosty---- only accelerate when straightened up.

i seem to recall last winter when everytime i checked this forum someone had written one off... remember guys there will only ever be less and less of these cars on the road never more.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Last year during a few cold patchs,i found that going around corners at anything above 10mph would send the back out.Really surprised meeek

gazzab

21,639 posts

311 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Never had probs like that in either cerb. Maybe I am just very sensible with the loud pedal.

GarethGTT

430 posts

263 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Last year during a few cold patchs,i found that going around corners at anything above 10mph would send the back out.Really surprised meeek

readit yep exactly what happened to me a couple of times..i was barely pressing the accelerator.

cramorra

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1,689 posts

264 months

Wednesday 18th October 2006
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So I am not the only one then- yup- careful in the winter then

Gazzab- apart from you being extremely careful and also having a lot of experiance with the cars- were yours both on standard suspension or upgraded? Do you think it makes a difference???
Certainly would not like to add mine to the writeoffs...

byker28i

91,557 posts

246 months

Thursday 19th October 2006
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I ride a motorbike daily. We're just getting to the point when I commute at about 20mph sower than I do in the dry, sunny weather. It'll be the same IF I take the cerbera out...

If the rain is anything like todays then I'll give it a miss

gbbird

5,197 posts

273 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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anonymous said:
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I agree with that

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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Dad quite likes the rain, and in my (limited) experience its very progressive in the wet. Which was nice considering the amount of things to hit as I was sliding it out of corners - and trust me on this, im an absolutely pants driver. hehe

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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gbbird said:
anonymous said:
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I agree with that
yes Sideways in traffic in 3rd. yikes Went there once. I`m not going back.

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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BCA said:
its very progressive in the wet.
confused

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

313 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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gbbird said:
anonymous said:
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I agree with that


I don't agree. Whilst I wouldn't go as far as Don Palmer ("The Wetter the Better" ) I'd say there is lots of fun to be had in the wet.

Just a bit more carefully than in the dry.



Make that a lot more carefully

Edited by Captain Beaky on Friday 20th October 15:04

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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mark r skinner said:
BCA said:
its very progressive in the wet.
confused


Provoke it, it slides, change the throttle and steering angle to catch or ride it out a little. I was *going for it* on that run, so I wasnt being gentle, even so I was suprised at how harsh you have to be with the throttle at times to make it step out. I understand in normal driving conditions you may not always be on your toes, but it doesnt always just suddenly snap round at you. Just drive sensibly if you dont like the conditions/ feel a little concerned.

Maybe I just got lucky and everything worked out that day? Or maybe im getting too used to haveing a 1.5 metre wheelbase... that is snappy. hehe

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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Yep I'd agree with the go for it pilots. Take your car out on the road and lose the back end.

Pick your time and place, but get used to it. You'll do it at fairly safe speeds, and give yourself time to catch.

People who only drive in the dry have little idea where the limits are and are pretty dangerous on a road anywhere near them.

I believe there is a special word for bikers who never go out in the wet. I think the same should be said of Cerb drivers.

mark r skinner

16,745 posts

246 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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BCA said:
mark r skinner said:
BCA said:
its very progressive in the wet.
Define progressive ? confused


I was suprised at how harsh you have to be with the throttle at times to make it step out.
confused Perhaps it`s out of tune ?

cossiemetro

1,092 posts

269 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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mine slides the back out in the wet but only when i want it to mind you its been wet once since may !!!!
but i would'nt even think about riding my zx12r (175bhp)in the wet it supersonic
i don't think it would last long lol......

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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I take my R1 out in the wet. Drive about half the normal speed and often have cars overtake me when riding. Tend to go back home if the back moves out, cos even in the wet it all happens too quick on my bike, and I don't think I was ever a good enough rider to cope with anything other than pottering in the wet on a bike

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Friday 20th October 2006
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mark r skinner said:
BCA said:
mark r skinner said:
BCA said:
its very progressive in the wet.
Define progressive ? confused


I was suprised at how harsh you have to be with the throttle at times to make it step out.
confused Perhaps it`s out of tune ?


More likely im too much of a wuss to give it much throttle...