Import engine advice

[v8sag]

Wouldn't mind knowing what you chaps think
I'm looking at a 98 Cerb 4.2 with 10k milage on it, only verified from the odometer that was imported from Japan.
I would have no need for the engine so would look at sending it back to the UK along with some other TVR goodies as there is no market in NZ for them.(Tvrs are no longer able to be road registed and there are only two 4.5's here)
Realising its a gamble for anyone to buy a non running engine I was thinking of having a video of it running as well as a fresh dyno print out before pulling it.
Any other suggestions.
Cheers Paul

[byff]

There doesn't seem to be a market for them in the UK either, have you seen the prices of Cerbera's lately? I think the cost of shipping it all back will outweigh the money you will get for it. Having said that, engine prices are still around the £4k mark last time I looked, but you can pick up a whole car for less than £10k (I have heard of them changing hands for only £8k )

I'm curious as to what your plans are, ditching the engine for a NZ sourced powerplant? I thought it was the car itself that failed the import requirements.

[v8sag]

byff said:

There doesn't seem to be a market for them in the UK either, have you seen the prices of Cerbera's lately? I think the cost of shipping it all back will outweigh the money you will get for it. Having said that, engine prices are still around the £4k mark last time I looked, but you can pick up a whole car for less than £10k (I have heard of them changing hands for only £8k )

I'm curious as to what your plans are, ditching the engine for a NZ sourced powerplant? I thought it was the car itself that failed the import requirements.

I could land it back in the UK tax's paid for 700/800 plus iv'e got a couple of sets of Griff estorils and other bits and bobs that still fetch good money that are worthless here.
So I guess if the engine being turnkey could fetch 3k maybe it could be worth it,I just don't need it hanging round the reli's to long.
Yes the car fails our import requirements,but won't if it's no longer a TVR made up with doner components and a big chevy donk.
This is all assuming I can aquire at the right price

Edited by v8sag on Tuesday 17th October 10:22

[jensena]

You must have strange laws in NZ ! I could understand it of you said the engine fails emission regs, but you seem to be saying it's because it's a TVR! And if you put a Chevy lump in, the authorities say 'Oh look, its not a TVR anymore, we'll let him register it'

[gazzab]

It will end up as a 'kit car' I assume.

[v8sag]

jensena said:

You must have strange laws in NZ ! I could understand it of you said the engine fails emission regs, but you seem to be saying it's because it's a TVR! And if you put a Chevy lump in, the authorities say 'Oh look, its not a TVR anymore, we'll let him register it'

Our SVA equivalent has a lower threshold of 200 vehichles per marque,so TVR's have to meet major volume criterea,they fail on frontal impact as their not crash tested,hence presenting a "Scratch built" vehicle,made up of doner parts.

[simonsparrow]

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

[v8sag]

simonsparrow said:

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

Simon,spent a year dealing with the LTSA(head of policy) and with the help of TVR,nothing's going to happen untill a change in legislation,The motorsport exemption applies only if the car was purpose built for motorsport pre import to NZ.
So its back to dealing in the stronger shades of grey,at your own peril.

[boosted Ls1]

v8sag said:

simonsparrow said:

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

The motorsport exemption applies only if the car was purpose built for motorsport pre import to NZ.
So its back to dealing in the stronger shades of grey,at your own peril.

He he, we should assemble them in my air conditioned executive workshops.


Boosted.

[v8sag]

boosted Ls1 said:

v8sag said:

simonsparrow said:

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

The motorsport exemption applies only if the car was purpose built for motorsport pre import to NZ.
So its back to dealing in the stronger shades of grey,at your own peril.

He he, we should assemble them in my air conditioned executive workshops.


Boosted.

Prefably,the motorsport workshop,next to the engine room which is linked to the corporate entertainment suite,below the guest wing iirc..

[boosted Ls1]

v8sag said:

boosted Ls1 said:

v8sag said:

simonsparrow said:

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

The motorsport exemption applies only if the car was purpose built for motorsport pre import to NZ.
So its back to dealing in the stronger shades of grey,at your own peril.

He he, we should assemble them in my air conditioned executive workshops.


Boosted.

Prefably,the motorsport workshop,next to the engine room which is linked to the corporate entertainment suite,below the guest wing iirc..

That's it

Boosted.

[simonsparrow]

v8sag said:

simonsparrow said:

Have you spoken to the LTSA in Wellington? I was looking at bringing my Cerbera back a few years ago (but have stayed on in the UK) and had some interesting discussions with them. For example, if it was setup as a dedicated motorsport car, then you can get around the frontal impact requirements as you'd need a full motorsport cage etc.

The people I spoke to were helpful and sympathetic - could be worth a go.

Simon,spent a year dealing with the LTSA(head of policy) and with the help of TVR,nothing's going to happen untill a change in legislation,The motorsport exemption applies only if the car was purpose built for motorsport pre import to NZ.
So its back to dealing in the stronger shades of grey,at your own peril.

Ah well, sorry to hear that. The LTSA basically said to me the '200 units or less per year' rule was a bit of a cock up. It should have been 2000 as per the EU.