MP3 CD Help
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bennno

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Question time, have nice shiny new Pioneer 7400 MP3 player in TVR and have Windows XP equipped PC with Media Player / MP3 plug in and CD recorder.

Cant seem to put the MP3 tracks on to the CD in such a way that the head unit will recognise them, can anybody help?

Instruction manual talks about route directory folders, sub folders, the requirement for a disk to have been finalised etc and a maximum of 253 items from one folder

Heeelp

Bennno

plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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What are you using to write the MP3's to the CD?

Not sure if this may be causing a problem.

What you will probably need to create is a directory structure on the CD so create a Root folder called say MUSIC and then whatever you want in there.

The problem I think is that you are creating a CD with all the MP3's just written to the CD in no folder structure, so when you look at the CD there are however many MP3's just sitting there rather than a folder at the top level which you have to open to see the music.

The Root folder it talks about is analagous to C: on your hard disk. Best thing to do would be to create a Music folder on your PC and copy the whole lot onto a CD and then try that in the car.

Matt.

bennno

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293 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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tried that and it didnt seem to like it!

will try again on another blank cd

benno

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Drop an e-mail to Pioneer... always found them VERY helpful...

plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Does it talk about playlists?

Matt.

dannyboyo

2,392 posts

303 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Are you getting the cd burning program to convert the mp3's to audio cd files (cda's)?? You don't want to do this!!

Make the CD a data CD instead of an audio CD and burn them on to the cd as mp3's. If u are doing this then sorry to point out the obvious! Saying that though, even if your burning program is creating audio cds instead of data cds the 7400 should still play them.

Maybe the CDs are sh*t quality. I've got a 7400 and haven't had any problems using TDK CDs. Also the slower you burn the CDs (i.e. x2 or x4) then better the burning quality, it'll burn it 'deeper' if u know what i mean!

My MP3's are in folders on the CD but this isn't neccesary really. Its just good to arrange them in albums for tidiness's sake.

Also MP3 players like to have the CD 'closed' or 'finalised' so no more data can be written to the CD, there should be a 'Disc-at-once' option instead of 'Track-at-once', or even a 'finalise CD' option.

Are the MP3's playing from the CD on your PC?

bennno

Original Poster:

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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yup, trying most of that and been on hold at pioneer this morning for an age.

Bennno

bennno

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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theres something called a compatibility DLA in windows XP not sure if this means finalised?

RichardR

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Try the Pioneer Knowledge Base. I had a question about my headunit/CD changer combination and got a very prompt answer from them.

plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Ben,

Page 52 of your manual (or at least the one I have here which should be the same) shows the directory structure as it should be, and as I was trying to explain badly.

The MP3's must be recorded at either 32, 44.1 or 48Khz

Max number of characters in the file/folder name is 32 inlcuding the extension.

The disc MUST be finalized/closed.

Bit rate doesnt come into is as it can play 320kbps no bother.

All files must have a .mp3 extension.

Matt.


dannyboyo

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303 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Not that it should really matter, but what program are you using to burn the CDs with? I always found Nero to be reliable and pretty straight forward to use.

Also have you got access to another PC with a burner on it? Maybe worth a try.

Does the pioneer play normal audio CDs OK?

I'm racking my brains here, but can't think what could be wrong!!

bennno

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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plays audio cd's fine

getting closer, attempts thus far

CD 1) Disk Error Code 33
CD 2) Format Read - no music data
CD 3) Format Read - MP3 on display but wont play

Fingers crossed for go number 4

Bennno

plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Nero and XP dont like each other though...

I would use Roxio above any of that MS stuff complete with embedded DRM rubbish.

Matt.

david010167

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287 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Ah, Roxio and Windows XP Home Edition also have a problem with each other, however a cure is available on the Microsoft website.

David


plotloss said: Nero and XP dont like each other though...

I would use Roxio above any of that MS stuff complete with embedded DRM rubbish.

Matt.


plotloss

67,280 posts

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Tuesday 11th March 2003
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New release of Roxio works fine...

Matt.

**999**

286 posts

282 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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plotloss said: Nero and XP dont like each other though...

I would use Roxio above any of that MS stuff complete with embedded DRM rubbish.

Matt.


Nero and XP work fine - you need to disable the XP CD Burn facility by unchecking the process within the process manager (Hidden away under Administrative Tools). Update Nero to V 5.5.10 in any case.

The program that does have issues with XP is Roxio EZCD Creator (even with the fixes).. even more surprising then that the XP CD Burning program uses the same burning engine as the Roxio productbut in an abbreviated form.

As for burning at lower speed creating better quality CD's that's completely untrue. The only factor here that could affect the functionality of the burnt CD will be an interruption to the burn process that cause a buffer underrun or a complete failure to burn.

I'll do a little research with some of my technical bods and return...

Edited to add:

Ok the bods seem to think that the problem lies with the type of data being written to your discs.
Recommendation:
1. Organise your music into folders and sub folders taking care not to exceed the max tiers or folders as specified in the manual.
2. Ensure that the folders contain on MP3 files and nothing else.
3. Use Nero v5.5.10.
4. Choose to create A Data CD and specify disc at once to close the disc.
5. Drag and Drop the folder structure into the new disc window.
6. Burn

If this fails, then the next suggestion would be to try different CDR's from another manufacturer

>> Edited by **999** on Tuesday 11th March 13:29

davidd

6,670 posts

308 months

Tuesday 11th March 2003
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Benno

I have the same set up (Nero, XP and a 7400) and have a few disks created with no trouble at all. Typically I have a load of albums by artis on the network here, I just drop them on to the CDR so it looks like...

Root
+++Foofighters
+++++song1
+++++song2
+++++song3 etc
+++Badly drawn boy
+++++Album1
+++++++Song1
+++++++song2 etc
+++++Album2
+++++++song1
+++++++song2
+++++++song3 etc

and so on, make sure they are in .mp3 and the disk is closed and it should work. If you have a problem I'll send you one of mine which works so you can satisfy yourself the head unit is ok.

Good luck

D.