Disclosure of Info by DVLA to private car park owners
Discussion
Spotted this on local rag letters page. Linked to ongoing discussion re the use of ANPR cameras by car park operators.
Relates to a publication from the Information Commissioners Office, no link as commissioner website is unwell at the moment.
Relating to disclosure of information from DVLA, section 7.
"The register of vehicle keepers held by the DVLA/DVLNI is founded on statutory requirements and vehicle keepers are liable for legal sanctions if their vehicle is not correctly registered. There are a number of significant public policy reasons on which this legal compulsion is based. However, it is inappropriate to allow the details to be used in a variety of other circumstances well removed from those founding public policy objectives such as by organisations solely to protect their own commercial interests where there are less intrusive ways of protecting them.
"For example, with car parking, the operating company could make the decision to use a barrier system to ensure proper use of the car park, rather than relying on gaining access to the DVLA/DVLNI register to trace the keepers of vehicles who have not paid the correct parking fee. Access to vehicle keeper details should be restricted where there is a justifiable and pressing need and where alternative arrangements are not possible."
Seems to me that the Information Commissioner makes it very clear that firstly the companies who rely on DVLA access are being underhand, and that secondly the DVLA is equally delinquent with our information.
Should this be a repost then no doubt the tiresome repost police will get out their foam covered nightsticks and engage in attempting to send me down the steps. You'll never take me alive, plonkers!"
Relates to a publication from the Information Commissioners Office, no link as commissioner website is unwell at the moment.
Relating to disclosure of information from DVLA, section 7.
"The register of vehicle keepers held by the DVLA/DVLNI is founded on statutory requirements and vehicle keepers are liable for legal sanctions if their vehicle is not correctly registered. There are a number of significant public policy reasons on which this legal compulsion is based. However, it is inappropriate to allow the details to be used in a variety of other circumstances well removed from those founding public policy objectives such as by organisations solely to protect their own commercial interests where there are less intrusive ways of protecting them.
"For example, with car parking, the operating company could make the decision to use a barrier system to ensure proper use of the car park, rather than relying on gaining access to the DVLA/DVLNI register to trace the keepers of vehicles who have not paid the correct parking fee. Access to vehicle keeper details should be restricted where there is a justifiable and pressing need and where alternative arrangements are not possible."
Seems to me that the Information Commissioner makes it very clear that firstly the companies who rely on DVLA access are being underhand, and that secondly the DVLA is equally delinquent with our information.
Should this be a repost then no doubt the tiresome repost police will get out their foam covered nightsticks and engage in attempting to send me down the steps. You'll never take me alive, plonkers!"
Edited by Flat in Fifth on Saturday 21st October 19:49
I got it direct from the information commission that they accept that the DVLA can provide our info. to the private firms. BUT, they didn't reply to my message that I would accept it is desirable to provide the info. to the police, but not to a private firm. Where else can one obtain the name of a transgressor in a legal dispute by simply writing to the Govt and asking them. Simple revenue scheme as usual IMHO.
Flat in Fifth said:
Information Commissioner
Who has chocolate teeth and openly sneered at by most public bodies DVLA included.
In reality he is a sock puppet there to allow the government to provide a veneer of respectability to their abuse of our private data.
On the bright side at least it is only your car reg - in a few years it will be your biometric information sold to the highest bidder.
They probablby can.......my mates ex wife came home one day and announced to him that his brother was adopted!.........fortunately he already knew... she worked in some capacity that gave her access to this info but it wasn't connected with his family doctors etc.......so all you 
doners out there ...beware big brother knows what your doing!!
doners out there ...beware big brother knows what your doing!!Sperm donors lost the right to annominity a couple of years back - since then sperm donation has dropped to record lows.
The NHS are centralising all medical records and making them available to 100,000s of civil servants - take a look at www.nhsconfidentiality.org/?page_id=3 is you want to do something about protecting your privacy.
The NHS are centralising all medical records and making them available to 100,000s of civil servants - take a look at www.nhsconfidentiality.org/?page_id=3 is you want to do something about protecting your privacy.
drivenmad said:
They probablby can.......my mates ex wife came home one day and announced to him that his brother was adopted!.........fortunately he already knew... she worked in some capacity that gave her access to this info but it wasn't connected with his family doctors etc.......so all you doners out there ...beware big brother knows what your doing!!
doners out there ...beware big brother knows what your doing!!why would being adopted be anything to with the family doctors?
i could understand social services, by why on earth would your doctor need to know if you were adopted, they don't even ask you about your parents or anything.
eccles said:
why would being adopted be anything to with the family doctors?
i could understand social services, by why on earth would your doctor need to know if you were adopted, they don't even ask you about your parents or anything.
i could understand social services, by why on earth would your doctor need to know if you were adopted, they don't even ask you about your parents or anything.
Sorry, but the answer to your question is available only on a Need-to-know basis.
eccles said:
why would being adopted be anything to with the family doctors?
i could understand social services, by why on earth would your doctor need to know if you were adopted, they don't even ask you about your parents or anything.
i could understand social services, by why on earth would your doctor need to know if you were adopted, they don't even ask you about your parents or anything.
Maybe something to do with hereditary diseases, which you can't of course inherit from adoptive parents?!?
Make it clear that you will not accept any information be disclosed. I have to the DVLA and basically said that if any information is disclosed to a third party excepting the Police or acceptable government agencies I shall be following it up with the Data Protection act. The commissioner may be a wuss but the act isn't.
bluepolarbear said:
Sperm donors lost the right to annominity a couple of years back - since then sperm donation has dropped to record lows.
The NHS are centralising all medical records and making them available to 100,000s of civil servants - take a look at www.nhsconfidentiality.org/?page_id=3 is you want to do something about protecting your privacy.
The NHS are centralising all medical records and making them available to 100,000s of civil servants - take a look at www.nhsconfidentiality.org/?page_id=3 is you want to do something about protecting your privacy.
It's a shame that the fundamental objection on that site is based on nothing more than conjecture
streaky said:
bluepolarbear said:
Sperm donors lost the right to annominity a couple of years back - since then sperm donation has dropped to record lows.
Come again? - Streaky Sorry, couldn't help it! - S
As bluepolarbear said... egg and sperm donors are no longer permitted anonymity. Any children born as a result are legally entitled to be told who their biological parents are at age 18, and can then turn up on your doorstep to say, "Hi, Mum/Dad!". No wonder doning has declined.
Peter Ward said:
streaky said:
bluepolarbear said:
Sperm donors lost the right to annominity a couple of years back - since then sperm donation has dropped to record lows.
Come again? - Streaky Sorry, couldn't help it! - S
As bluepolarbear said... egg and sperm donors are no longer permitted anonymity. Any children born as a result are legally entitled to be told who their biological parents are at age 18, and can then turn up on your doorstep to say, "Hi, Mum/Dad!". No wonder doning has declined.
Mindless... You realise some civil servant was paid a salary to sit in a room and dream this rubbish up?
No wonder the Iraqis don't want to know about our model of democracy - hardly something to strive for is it?
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