Driving my 500 in the rain
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Got caught out in the rain today in my 500 how scarey 
but bloody good fun fish tailing through most of the gears, ended up pulling away in 2nd as 1st was a waist of time, even then as soon as the revs got above 2000 
i have never had to move the steering wheel so much when travelling in a straight line 
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but bloody good fun fish tailing through most of the gears, ended up pulling away in 2nd as 1st was a waist of time, even then as soon as the revs got above 2000 i have never had to move the steering wheel so much when travelling in a straight line .
GreenV8S said:
Tip somebody gave me which has saved me from loads of trouble over the years: that pedal on the right has a 'middle' position too. If you can't pull away in first gear without wheelspin when you want to, you're doing something wrong.
Of course you can but who wants to drive a 500 Chimaera like a fanny
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tvrchim said:
Of course you can but who wants to drive a 500 Chimaera like a fanny :.
:.Controlling wheelspin with the throttle doesn't necessarily mean driving like a fanny. How much of this do you suppose was full throttle? (That was with less than 300 lb-ft, with the thick end of 400 lb-ft it's even more fun.) We're heading towards the time of year when throttle control could literally save your life.
GreenV8S said:
tvrchim said:
Of course you can but who wants to drive a 500 Chimaera like a fanny :.
:.Controlling wheelspin with the throttle doesn't necessarily mean driving like a fanny. How much of this do you suppose was full throttle? (That was with less than 300 lb-ft, with the thick end of 400 lb-ft it's even more fun.) We're heading towards the time of year when throttle control could literally save your life.
I never said i was driving on full throttle that would be mental on public roads, i was using the throttle to control the wheelspin when it started and to keep it going or back it off depending on the traffic around me at the time, i was just having fun
:. Nice vid by the way.
tvrchim said:
I never said i was driving on full throttle that would be mental on public roads, i was using the throttle to control the wheelspin when it started and to keep it going or back it off depending on the traffic around me at the time, i was just having fun
If you were doing it on purpose then fair enough - no problems with you having fun. It's just the original post did make it sound involuntary and Pete was just making the very fair point that wheelspin in the wet is avoidable. JonRB said:
tvrchim said:
I never said i was driving on full throttle that would be mental on public roads, i was using the throttle to control the wheelspin when it started and to keep it going or back it off depending on the traffic around me at the time, i was just having fun
If you were doing it on purpose then fair enough - no problems with you having fun. It's just the original post did make it sound involuntary and Pete was just making the very fair point that wheelspin in the wet is avoidable.I agree it is avoidable if you drive with a very light right foot, but thats not how i choose to drive,
i like to have some fun when im out even in the wet. I watched Pete`s video he posted and he also had a lot of traction problems and he was no where near full throttle. If it came across in the first post that i was having trouble and could not stop the wheelspin then i apoligise for the confusion, i was just saying how easy you can provoke wheelspin in the wet in a 500, and how much bloody fun it is .that daddy said:
keep pulling away in 3rd and you will keep your gearbox man happy,lunched bearings & damaged gears......OH YES IT DOES.....never mind the clutch.....i reckon you must have a stiff throttle that goes straight to 75% soon as you touch it.
Wow, I'll consider myself told !
cln1 said:
that daddy said:
keep pulling away in 3rd and you will keep your gearbox man happy,lunched bearings & damaged gears......OH YES IT DOES.....never mind the clutch.....i reckon you must have a stiff throttle that goes straight to 75% soon as you touch it.
Wow, I'll consider myself told !
; I found my first experience of driving
my 500 in the wet a very valuable lesson.
like The way my whole car shifted from one side of the road to the other in a split second of throttle abuse. It Made me think very carefully about the level of respect
i have to have driving such a powerful car in these conditions.
my 500 in the wet a very valuable lesson. like The way my whole car shifted from one side of the road to the other
in a split second of throttle abuse. It Made me think very carefully about the level of respect i have to have driving such a powerful car in these conditions. jasandjules said:
I've only driven the 500 once in the wet, but she was ok at 3500 revs (which was about as high as I took them)... Even handled well when I had to avoid the t**t who decided he had right of way anyway...
Wonder why yours was so skittish..
Wonder why yours was so skittish..
Only the back end was skittish as it would be under acceleration in driving rain, mine spins the wheels in the dry without the clutch, under full acceleration. Almost any car can be made to misbehave in the wet.
stu 9thgate said:
I found my first experience of driving my 500 in the wet a very valuable lesson.
like The way my whole car shifted from one side of the road to the other in a split second of throttle abuse. It Made me think very carefully about the level of respect i have to have driving such a powerful car in these conditions.
my 500 in the wet a very valuable lesson. like The way my whole car shifted from one side of the road to the other
in a split second of throttle abuse. It Made me think very carefully about the level of respect i have to have driving such a powerful car in these conditions. Exactly.
GreenV8S said:
Controlling wheelspin with the throttle doesn't necessarily mean driving like a fanny. How much of this do you suppose was full throttle? (That was with less than 300 lb-ft, with the thick end of 400 lb-ft it's even more fun.) We're heading towards the time of year when throttle control could literally save your life.
Hey, GreenV8s great vid. I was having trouble keeping track of where the centred position of your steering wheel was there, and I could watch it and didn't have to look at the road. How do you keep track of centre when you have to turn so far that you habe to take your hands off the 'quater to three' positions? Great driving!
Edited by taylormj4 on Monday 23 October 12:21
Edited by taylormj4 on Monday 23 October 12:22
taylormj4 said:
I was having trouble keeping track of where the centred position of your steering wheel was there, and I could watch it and didn't have to look at the road. How do you keep track of centre when you have to turn so far that you habe to take your hands off the 'quarter to three' positions?
I knew roughly how much lock was applied during this just by knowing how far I had moved the wheel, but mainly I was reacting to the way the car responded. I didn't consciously look at or think about the position of the wheel at any point.
From the video you're missing a lot of physical cues. The procedure when the back steps out like that is to apply the maximum possible steering and throttle correction but stop correcting as soon as the car responds. Normally I can feel the car respond as soon as I start to wind off the lock and don't even get as far as feathering the throttle before the slide is caught. This time was unusual because the car didn't respond at all to the early measures and I ended up with virtually full correction and still barely catching it. It was *very* slippery out there!
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